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The problem with Perry (a primer on the divide between Socialists and Conservatives)
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 28, 2011 | Editiorial Board

Posted on 08/28/2011 2:46:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Given the depth of his loathing for the federal government, it's a little surprising that Texas Gov. Rick Perry wants to preside over it.....

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Social Security: Perry sees it as a misguided product of the New Deal........Moreover, Perry's proposed fixes for the healthcare system — tort reform, individual (rather than employer-sponsored) ownership of health insurance, portability of plans for people who move or change jobs — would do nothing to slow the growth of healthcare costs or reduce the number of uninsured Americans.

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National defense:.............He believes President Obama's attempts to limit nuclear weapons are misguided because they ignore "the realities of a world full of power-hungry despots who respect us not because of our ideals but because of our strength.".......

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Politics: If you thought the Republicans in control of the House were an uncompromising bunch, they've got nothing on Perry. In Texas, the governor has never been known for reaching across the aisle and pressures moderate Republicans to toe the conservative line. He believes the GOP lost its congressional majority in 2006 not because of an unpopular war but because the party compromised its small-government principles. Under a Perry administration, it would be Rick's way or the highway.

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....(notably, he doesn't see the world getting warmer, as climate scientists predict it will be in 2026, because he believes that the overwhelming scientific consensus about man-made global warming is "a contrived phony mess").....

Perry expresses deep nostalgia for the laissez faire, robber-baron era at the turn of the 20th century, when government stayed out of the way of business, unions were weak or nonexistent and the Progressive movement hadn't yet taken off.....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: economy; gopprimary; jobs; perry; perry2012
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Great article - makes me even more determined to support Perry!

I can't get over the naivete of liberal journalists. In this case, the writer spells out all of the dastardly principles that Perry upholds! Problem is, those are the exact principles conservative Americans are wanting in their President. The fact that the journalist is so totally blinded by his socialist agenda is just downright hilarious!

I love this: Perry's proposed fixes for the healthcare system would do nothing to slow the growth of healthcare costs or reduce the number of uninsured Americans.

Maybe not. But they also wouldn't make me pay 35% more every year for my existing health policy!

21 posted on 08/28/2011 3:29:58 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, Sir, it is perfectly ok to call me "Ma'am"!)
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To: cbkaty; trebb
Perry wants a “level playing field” & an end to ethanol mandate

AUDIO


22 posted on 08/28/2011 3:31:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sklar

I’ll have to differ with you on Palin. She’s their fallback plan in case liberty-lovers on the right don’t fall for the usual suspects. They would not give her the attention they do if she was a true threat to them, they would black her out. They did the same thing with her that they are doing with Perry in this article - focusing liberal hate on them so that conservatives think they are one of them without investigating the details too closely.


23 posted on 08/28/2011 3:32:08 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Theoretical Ideal Candidate for President 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just spent the weekend with my ultra liberal sister in law. I sent her in a twenty minute rant (I didn’t say a word) by asking her if she was going to buy Dick Cheney’s book. He he hee.....


24 posted on 08/28/2011 3:35:25 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: sklar

Really? I thought that you could taste the vitriol.


25 posted on 08/28/2011 3:37:31 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: sklar

I’ve been hearing this “The left is playing 3-D chess” thing for years and it’s just too silly. Liberals demonize and attack—they don’t set up these complicated “We’re SAYING we don’t like him, thus proving we DO like him” scenarios because they DO NOT WORK.

The things they criticize Perry for are things they have always disagreed with, so I just don’t see this “Ah-HA!” stuff. It strikes me as just folks who don’t like Perry coming up with some bizarre reason why when the same people who attack their chosen candidate attack Perry it isn’t the same thing.


26 posted on 08/28/2011 3:40:47 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (``Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it``-Pope John Paul II)
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To: icanhasbailout

8/6/2011


27 posted on 08/28/2011 3:43:51 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: richardtavor

I’m aware. I see that date every time I put out a sound argument here that cannot be refuted, but is uncomfortable for people who haven’t thought a particular subject through all the way.


28 posted on 08/28/2011 3:46:24 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Theoretical Ideal Candidate for President 2012)
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To: richardtavor
Perry calls Social Security 'monstrous lie'
29 posted on 08/28/2011 3:48:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: icanhasbailout

Pity us nonthinkers


30 posted on 08/28/2011 3:51:44 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: icanhasbailout
Methinks you're being too smart by half.

This concept of universal participation conspiracy is illogical and unsustainable.

31 posted on 08/28/2011 3:52:00 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Given the depth of his loathing for the federal government, it’s a little surprising that Texas Gov. Rick Perry

They could have ended the article right there and I’d have to look hard at him as my candidate. I don’t like everything about Rick but he stands for most of the things I think are important.


32 posted on 08/28/2011 3:54:05 AM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way..")
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To: Recon Dad
August 27, 2011 -- Perry at press conference: AUDIO 12:00 (ethanol, S.S., border control, national disaster control, regulations, etc……)

He handles questions directly.

33 posted on 08/28/2011 3:57:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sklar
The LA Times and Perry are a lot closer in outlook than Perry and real Conservatives.

He's gotta' start crawling through broken glass ~ denounce his former mistaken beliefs and foolish affiliations.

I'd like to see a two or three hour session where he denounces the Algore and that crowd.

That's just a start.

34 posted on 08/28/2011 4:14:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

.....I'd like to see a two or three hour session where he denounces the Algore and that crowd.....

Rick Perry worked on Al Gore's Texas bid for votes in the 1988 Democratic Party Primary that Michael Dukakus won.

......."During his time in Congress, [Al] Gore opposed federal funding of abortion, voting in favor of a bill which supported a moment in silence in schools, and voting against a ban on interstate sales of guns. His position shifted later in life after he became Vice President and ran for president in 2000…”…… Source

Gore his wife led the charge on putting warning labels on records back in the 1980s. In fact, Gore had an 84% pro-life record back in the 1980s:http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Al_Gore - According to ontheissues.org -- Gore had an 84% anti-abortion voting record and voted pro-life 27 times. Evolving Gore

Rick Perry: Al Gore's gone to Hell

Rick Perry started as a Democrat in West Texas (essentially THE only party). He served in the Texas legislature - was known as one of the "pit bulls," conservative members who sat in the lower pit of the House Appropriations Committee and bitterly fought spending increases.

Perry changed parties in 1989, joining Phil Gramm and other conservative Texas Democrats, who now had a true ideological party with a burgeoning Texas GOP.

When Perry campaigned for Lt. Gov. [1998], he and his campaign staff were in it to win and his hard-nosed style was against the "friendly" advice and request of GWB [in re-election bid for Texas Gov] and Rove to run easy against Sharp, a popular democrat (and Aggie friend of Perry's from their A&M years together). Rove wanted to broaden Bush's base for his upcoming White House run. Perry told them where to stick their advice, because he knew the voters would vote for Bush for Gov. and then cross back over and vote for Sharp (D) for Lt. Gov, if he just walked through the motions like the Bush-Rove team asked him to do.

Perry won the seat for Lt. Gov. -- the first Republican elected to that office since Reconstruction. Now 13 years later and into his 3rd term as Texas governor, the GOP holds a super majority. So Perry has earned his conservative spurs -- fighting both parties!

[The Bushes and Rove supported Kay Bailey Hutchison's primary challenge against Gov. Perry in the 2010 election too]

35 posted on 08/28/2011 4:25:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Darkwolf377
I’ve been hearing this “The left is playing 3-D chess” thing for years and it’s just too silly.

What is about to happen here is hardly "3-D chess". It's more like a rigged prizefight.

The One-World Government Elites can live happily with either a President Barak Obama, or a President Rick Perry. Either way, they win & we lose.

That's the reason the controlled Media is trying to get Conservatives excited about Rick Perry & sour on Sarah Palin.

They own & control Rick Perry (just as they do McCain & Graham & others), but they don't own & can't control Sarah Palin.

36 posted on 08/28/2011 4:44:51 AM PDT by sklar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

I can give you the quick and easy Free Republic difference between conservatives and socialists:

Conservative - my particular chosen candidate for the GOP nomination, and other people who support him or her.

Dirty, stinking socialist - any other candidate for the GOP nomination besides the one I support, and any people who support these obvious stinking lowlifes.


37 posted on 08/28/2011 4:52:08 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: sklar
but they don't own & can't control Sarah Palin.

No offence to SARAH! but you don't really *know* that. She could well be just as bought and paid for as you think any of the rest of them are. Could explain her support for the Law of the Sea Treaty.

38 posted on 08/28/2011 4:54:37 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: icanhasbailout; sklar; Cincinatus' Wife
I'm not Perry supporter (yet). However, this kind of logic reminds me of the global warming argument. If the temperature is too cold, that's because of global warming. If it's too hot, that's because of global warming.

If Perry is attacked by the MSM, that's because they want him to win. If Perry is praised by the MSM, that's because they want him to win.

39 posted on 08/28/2011 5:02:50 AM PDT by paudio (The 0bama Downgrade Two (a possible sequel to the current horror movie))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry believes that the mandate for all Americans to buy health insurance is unconstitutional...

Then how can a mandate for all Americans to fund a private retirement account - Perry's preferred replacement to Social Security - be constitutional?

40 posted on 08/28/2011 5:03:42 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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