Posted on 08/27/2011 2:07:53 PM PDT by neverdem
Yet another panel of scientists has found no evidence that a popular vaccine causes autism. But despite the scientists’ best efforts, their report is unlikely to have any impact on the frustrating debate about the safety of these crucial medicines.
“The M.M.R. vaccine doesn’t cause autism, and the evidence is overwhelming that it doesn’t,” Dr. Ellen Wright Clayton, the chairwoman ...
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The panel did conclude, however, that there are risks to getting the chickenpox vaccine that can arise years after vaccination. People who have had the vaccine can develop pneumonia, meningitis or hepatitis years later if the virus used in the vaccine reawakens because an unrelated health problem, like cancer, has compromised their immune systems.
The same problems are far more likely in patients who are infected naturally at some point in their lives with chickenpox, since varicella zoster, the virus that causes chickenpox, can live dormant in nerve cells for decades...
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For instance, recent studies have found that many of the children who suffered seizures and lifelong problems after receiving the whole-cell pertussis vaccine, which is no longer used but once routinely caused fevers in children, actually had Dravet syndrome, a severe form of epilepsy. The flood of lawsuits over the effects of the whole-cell pertussis vaccine was the reason Congress created the national vaccine injury compensation program in the first place, and children who suffered seizures after getting this vaccine have been among the most well-compensated...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/downloads/child/mmwr-child-schedule.pdf
Go to page 2. Depending on the third doses of Hepatitis B and Inactivated Poliovirus and the first dose of the Influenza vaccines are given, newborns can get 16 - 19 total doses of seven different vaccines, not one of which is more than 3 times according to the schedule by 6 months.
They give attenuated version of these microbes when they can't get a a good immunologic response from components of inactivated, i.e. dead microbes, or to ease the administration, e.g. the oral Sabin polio vaccine which used a live attenuated polio virus. With HIV/AIDS they reverted to injections with parts of the inactivated polio virus.
Rotavirus vaccine is a judgment call to prevent intussecception, a diagnosis that could require major surgery. Hepatitis A and the chicken pox(Varicella) vaccines were real stretches, IMHO, but they are not given until 12 months.
Thimerosal, the preservative containing mercury, is only in the multidose version of the seasonal flu vaccine, for all intents and purposes. All other vaccines in the USA are available as single, aka unit, doses.
Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal contain 1 microgram or less of mercury per dose.
I used to play with elemental mercury as a kid. Mercury gets in the environment when coal is burned.
I wonder sometimes if I will go senile sooner due to the mercury I have gotten from old tooth fillings. Oh darn it, I can’t find my keys again.
See comment# 42. Check the links.
I agree that (CH3)2Hg, methyl mercury, is probbably the most toxic form, usally gotten from eating too many fish high in the food chain, IIRC.
>>Modern milk supplies are usually vitamin D supplemented. Milk content of the diet might be expected to influence anything that vitamin D can.<<
The problem is that the amount in milk is insufficient to offset the amount lost by sun avoidance, though it is probably enough to prevent rickets in children if they drink milk regularly. You probably won’t drink enough milk to get vitamin D levels up to the levels that are found to be useful in combating many diseases though. That will take time in the sun, suntanning under the right type of sun lamp, or supplementation.
Fortunately, the government recently doubled the Tolerable Upper Limit to 4,000 IU per day (I routinely take 5,000) so now researchers are able to ethically conduct experiments that are capable of showing the results of getting vitamin D3 levels up into the 50-80 Ng/ml range.
That’s all I ask—freedom of debate. But the troubling aspect is the control of studies and grant money, etc. by the Pharmaceutical companies and government. We are talking about billions of dollars for lobbying and influence—to buy off everyone needed which is happening.
Ben Stein addresses the government control of universities and the ability to “steer” studies—so the studies mean nothing— in his movie, “Expelled: No Intelligence allowed.”” The problems are exhibited by the Hockey stick graph-—complete fraud in so called “scientific research”.
This control and lobbying influence has to end. Government control of Universities has to end. We have to have freedom of the Press again....not controlled by a few elites where they can lie and state innuendos to destroy and marginalize people with no evidence. They need to suffer if they malign and destroy people’s reputations—the most evil thing which Solzhenitsyn claimed was happening back in 1978 at Harvard commencement speech. Said we had no free press—it was a joke—just a bunch of lies to “shape” opinion.
The massive power they have to kill and/or mass sterilize everyone at once—is extremely frightening. If you don’t think there are evil people controlling world events—you do not understand history. If you think they will not use science for evil, then you do not understand power and history.
There is a Soros cabal and they want to eliminate billions of people....they have stated it.....and vaccinations/and/or food and water supplies are the best means of implementing evil plans and would be incredibly easy to do. with their massive central control put in place now. Central control of schools and press has got to end—and government involvement in farming and the free market.....well, you get the picture. We are in serious trouble if we do not turn this Marxist regime around very soon. Bill Gates and the “ruling elites” want 3 billion people eliminated soon—off their playground.
“”Increase the age of the vaccinations when the child’s body can efficiently eliminate toxins.— Then again....multiple shots at once injects much more toxins.””
This is not my favorite topic as there are too many nasty freepers who will disagree when you make remarks like this but you are absolutely 100% correct.
There will never be studies made regarding vaccinated vs unvaccinated children with the diagnosis of Autism. That doesn’t fit their agenda nor does it reap profits for Big Pharma. It’s a horrible, horrible scam. Pediatricians are too afraid to speak up and they know very well the problems that are being caused. The list of ailments children have
now is endless and of course all to be treated with DRUGS!
Our daughter didn’t start her son’s vaccinations until after 2 years of age and demands only a single dose when he does get them. Fortunately they found a pediatrician who would agree to their wishes. They were turned away from other pediatrician’s offices when they made their desires known.
He had seen the pediatrician only for checkups until they started the vaccinations. Now they can count on taking him to the doctor at least once a month for something that pops up after a vaccination.
Unfortunately our state doesn’t allow for a personal exemption as we had for her when we lived in CA. I hear that CA is trying to eliminate the personal exemption now.
There is a lot of work to be done on this subject but I can’t see it happening - too much at stake - and the health of our children is the least of their concerns.
Sad but true IMO.
Some people, like Solzhenitsyn, have the guts (and faith) to resist and tell the truth. The struggle is more than worth the effort.
“”this stuff and the vaccines themselves are the logical causes. Especially when the problems occur in the reported cases right after a child is vaccinated.””
What’s funny about this is that their timetable is 3-4 days in some cases. If it happens on the 5th day, NOPE, the vaccine was not the cause! They are in the business of scaring the socks off parents (nicest way I could think of putting it), indoctrinating the medical field, school boards, state legislatures, etc.
All this country needs is someone prominent enough to stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with this foolishness. Anyone with a brain would know that pumping toxins into a newborn is asking for trouble. But it’s not their problem, is it?
I received the following from the NVIC this week:
Today, our children are being given three times as many vaccinations as they got in the early 1980’s. Three times as many vaccinations means three times as much profit for drug companies and doctors selling vaccines.
The base cost for a child to get every government recommended vaccine in a private pediatrician’s office has increased from $80 per child in 1986 to a whopping $2200 per child in 2011, and that doesn’t include physician office administration fees. The federal government now spends nearly $4 billion dollars per year to purchase vaccines for public health clinics, where half of America’s children are vaccinated.
Pharma Growing $36 Billion Vaccine Market
It is no surprise that vaccine development is one of the fastest growing sectors in the pharmaceutical industry. By 2013, Pharma will enjoy a $36 billion dollar vaccine market.
Eight Big Drug Corporations Now Sell Vaccines in U.S.
In 1986, there were three major drug corporations selling vaccines in the U.S. (Merck, Lederle, Connaught) and now there are eight (Merck, Pfizer, Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Astra Zeneca, CSL Biotherapies, Emergent BioSolutions). That is because, in 1986, Pharma blackmailed Congress into giving them partial liability protection from vaccine injury lawsuits... to read more of this commentary with hyperlinks to 88 references and to watch a video, click here.
TAKE AWAY the immunity from lawsuits and watch the industry rethink their motives!!!
Thanks for the correction........just read a lot of scientific journals on the subject years ago when writing papers on the subject. Too lazy to look up all the details.....but I am glad you understood what I was talking about. There is science behind my thinking, but it is the logic I remember—since I am really only interested in the bigger picture.
This guy is marginalized by the marxist MSM—as all truth is. I have done studies on this subject a decade ago in college and the MSM is lying to parents and is an arm of the government.
“”Conservatives need to be the guardians of truth in a darkening world—among other things that means enlightened skepticism about inflammatory and exotic claims with no supporting evidence.””
I don’t care if you’re conservative or a liberal, you have to be able to sort through research on your own. Conservatives are not prone to accept any old statements from the establishment and NO the vaccine-autism hoax has not been discredited. It’s not a hoax and it’s only accepted by people who haven’t been doing their own thinking and searching for answers on their own or have never experienced a child developing problems from vaccines. There’s too much evidence to the contrary and these opinions aren’t based on the findings of the one doctor in the UK who maybe was or was not discredited.
In other words, the ones who have accepted that children need these vaccines at an early age and who never question anything they’ve been told by the medical establishment. Why for instance do vaccines have to be given 5 or 6 at a time? What’s wrong with ONE at a time and then if problems develop, it would be simple to pin it down, wouldn’t it? Administering them that way would reveal too much!!!
There’s nothing wrong with healthy doses of skepticism and that’s conservative!!
On Liberty-—John Stuart Mill and the Founding Fathers knew the evil of government involvement in the Free Market, press, Education, Medicine, Health Care, and taxing of income. They would (and didn’t) allow it.
there was even a legal case which denied the right of government to “certify” people to practice medicine or teach or anything.......that is the camel’s nose under the tent and will lead to totalitarianism. Mill is worth reading today—he spells out the results of what we have virtually witnessed since the illegality Horace Mann. It gets worse too......and we all become slaves of the state. We better throw this boulder off our backs. It has gone way beyond Constitutional!!!!!
Dr. Mercola does know what he’s talking about. I rely on his articles a lot.
Another thing I found interesting was the fact that a lot of doctors won’t vaccinate their own kids. A few of my friends have doctor parents, and when I ask them if their parents vaccinated them, they asked me, “are you nuts?”
There is much more prestige and government awards for him to recite Big Pharma gibberish. For him to go against the flow takes courage and a very strong belief system in what is right.
If you look throughout history—where you get the few-—like Gandhi, Churchill, Lincoln, Wilberforce, Bonhoeffer, Jesus, Socrates—where you have those that stick to their principles of Truth Justice, and Wisdom even with the threat of death—it is very rare. It is very rare that people aren’t just following “group think” and the MSM agenda. Lemmings will believe the “vaccination is good” theory with no debate allowed—same with “Homosexuality is good”.
We KNOW MSM agenda...at least we should on FR. Vaccination is the same as Global Warming issue....it is all about money. Government could care less about the children. In fact, they want (and do) kill them. They want 3 billion fewer kids.
If people don’t know how sick and evil MSM is now—then they aren’t rational. To think they know the constant lies and bias of MSM on every single issue—and they go with MSM’s belief of vaccination???? Why???? That is like accepting Global Warming, as fact, homosexuality is good and man/boy sex is about real love. MSM are really sick and twisted people controlling worldview.
Get a look at their plans for your precious babies which they advocate massive amount of toxins to be pumped into their bodies before the age of 4 and tell me they care:
http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2011/08/26/brave-new-world-arrives-ahead-of-schedule-sex-indoctrination-for-toddlers/
When my third child had siezures for three days following a dpt shot at 6 weeks,plus the fact that the doctor lied to me about the possibility of the shot causing the siezures. And the part where, when signing her up for kindergarten I found 2 other moms who had had the same results. I stopped with the shots, until when my twins were about to enter kindergarten and was told by the school that they HAD to have them. Boy twin developed all three kinds of measles from the measles shot!
That really clinched it for me. I started resesrching and found out what’s in those things and that I only needed to sign a waiver to not have them pumped full of mercury and other toxins and never no more. With the exception of straight tetnus for bad cuts and punctures.
Once one of the boys cracked his head on a dumpster while horsing around at school and when I took him for stitches and told the dr. that no, he didn’t have his “shots”, the dr. told me that I was a good mom. His nephew had been permanently brain-dammaged from his “baby shots”.
I now have seven non-inoculated grandchildren who are also shot-free and top ranked both scholasticaly and athletically.
Lyme disease probably is autism
Cause #3 Lyme Disease
Researchers recently discovered the Lyme disease bacteria Borrelia can lead to autism in some children. Fetuses and babies that hadn’t been exposed to ticks were found to be infected with Lyme disease. The researchers discovered that this bacterium can be transmitted by a mother, who may unknowingly have Lyme disease, to her baby during birth, or in early childhood.
The researchers found that Lyme disease tends to run in families, passing from parents to children. If left untreated, it causes brain damage and many other hard to diagnose symptoms commonly found in autistic children.
This discovery led the researchers investigate the incidences of the Lyme disease bacteria in autistic children. Sure enough, they found this bacteria in many autistic children and their families.
The bacterium is able to get into the brain where it produces toxins, especially when children are exposed to it at a very early age. As with candida, Lyme disease alone isn’t the only problem.
The toxins produced by the Lyme bacteria get stuck in the brain because glutathione needed to remove the toxins gets used up, and cannot be replaced because the child is not making enough glutathione. The toxins disrupt normal brain activity which leads to autism.
Many times the Lyme bacteria causes an inflammatory autoimmune response in the brain as the immune system tries unsuccessfully to deal with the Lyme bacteria. This autoimmune response is a main cause of autism symptoms.
Turning off the autoimmune response, killing the bacterium, strengthening the immune system against the Borrelia bacteria, and getting the cells healthier so they can resist it are all ways to help deal with this issue.
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