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Vaccine Cleared Again as Autism Culprit
NY Times ^ | August 25, 2011 | GARDINER HARRIS

Posted on 08/27/2011 2:07:53 PM PDT by neverdem

Yet another panel of scientists has found no evidence that a popular vaccine causes autism. But despite the scientists’ best efforts, their report is unlikely to have any impact on the frustrating debate about the safety of these crucial medicines.

“The M.M.R. vaccine doesn’t cause autism, and the evidence is overwhelming that it doesn’t,” Dr. Ellen Wright Clayton, the chairwoman ...

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The panel did conclude, however, that there are risks to getting the chickenpox vaccine that can arise years after vaccination. People who have had the vaccine can develop pneumonia, meningitis or hepatitis years later if the virus used in the vaccine reawakens because an unrelated health problem, like cancer, has compromised their immune systems.

The same problems are far more likely in patients who are infected naturally at some point in their lives with chickenpox, since varicella zoster, the virus that causes chickenpox, can live dormant in nerve cells for decades...

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For instance, recent studies have found that many of the children who suffered seizures and lifelong problems after receiving the whole-cell pertussis vaccine, which is no longer used but once routinely caused fevers in children, actually had Dravet syndrome, a severe form of epilepsy. The flood of lawsuits over the effects of the whole-cell pertussis vaccine was the reason Congress created the national vaccine injury compensation program in the first place, and children who suffered seizures after getting this vaccine have been among the most well-compensated...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Testing
KEYWORDS: autism; chickenpoxvaccine; disorders; gardasil; immunology; lawsuit; mmr; pharmaceuticals; vaccine; vaccines
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To: webstersII

I believe she did mention that Vitamin D is being used in her daughters holistic therapy.

Yes, Vitamin D is amazing!


21 posted on 08/27/2011 3:25:30 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: neverdem

The biggest experiment is the ongoing one that they can’t reproduce in the lab. Take every newborn and stuff him with 30 vaccines including the disease, the media, the metal adjuvants, the preservatives, some animal cells, etc, for the first 6 mo the of the precious child’s life. Then wait and see if he develops neurological problems. Some might show up soon, like the autism spectrum disorders, but some might not show up til he’s 60 like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s.

People are crazy to put all those poisons into newborns. No child should be subject to that number of them that young. It’s sick.

And no, to those old timers who say it on every autism thread. You can’t spanking autism out of a child. You could have beat my son with your belt until he died in a bloody mass and it would not have helped him.


22 posted on 08/27/2011 3:26:36 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Tax-chick

My girlfriend’s husband was recently diagnosed with adult ADD at the age of 60. He drives her crazy.....:)


23 posted on 08/27/2011 3:27:23 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: Yaelle

“People are crazy to put all those poisons into newborns. No child should be subject to that number of them that young. It’s sick”

I agree, I’ve been saying this for years! Infants have their mothers immune system for the first year. Just wait until the child is older and stronger to start pumping them with this stuff!


24 posted on 08/27/2011 3:30:52 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t understand it - so let’s beat it


25 posted on 08/27/2011 3:31:43 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

What age do you suggest?


26 posted on 08/27/2011 3:49:39 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: dila813

I think it’s caused by parents who are drug abusers. BTW, ever notice how many athletes have children with birth defects?


27 posted on 08/27/2011 3:52:08 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: neverdem

This news is great. It means we can start injecting kids with mercury again! /sarc/


28 posted on 08/27/2011 3:53:37 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think 12 months and then spread them out a little more between doses.

I have two kids my daughter had reactions to the MMR vac., every time it was given. Heat around the injection site, irritability and fever. She was diagnosed years later with ADD inattentive.

Just my two cents...


29 posted on 08/27/2011 4:05:34 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I told my husband that, since he seemed to be able to function like normal people at work, I wasn’t going to agree to his being “disabled” at home. Being generously compensated, I would go around behind him doing everything he should be able to do for himself, but I wouldn’t pretend to be an idiot. End of that.


30 posted on 08/27/2011 4:28:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("True education is not an adjustment to the world, but a defense against the world.")
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To: neverdem

Here is a link to a vaccine chart that indicates which ones use aborted human fetal cells: http://www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm


31 posted on 08/27/2011 4:30:17 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

We minimally vaccinated and took a long time doing it. They didnt finish their shots to age 2 until five or six.

No chickenpox, no STD shots MMR with only a couple.


32 posted on 08/27/2011 4:35:52 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: neverdem
The vaccine-autism hoax has been totally discredited by serious investigators, the originator of the hoax has been de-licensed and exterminated from medical practice for grotesque ethical violations.

It is disgusting that cynical psychopaths would continue to mislead and distress concerned but ill-informed parents to have to worry about this non-issue.

Conservatives need to be the guardians of truth in a darkening world--among other things that means enlightened skepticism about inflammatory and exotic claims with no supporting evidence.

33 posted on 08/27/2011 4:44:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem

One has to be careful when dealing with the introduction of foreign proteins into a baby or toddler. Most children tolerate the vaccines but in some cases it is possible that foreign antigens may induce not an antigen-antibody response but rather an autoimmune response. I think this debate will continue. It seems intuitive that A common factor in 100 children is the introduction of a variety of vaccines at an early age. I’m not saying there is a relationship other than the fact it is a common element and certainly explains why parents and researchers would look there first.


34 posted on 08/27/2011 4:49:14 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: webstersII

>>Has she read about Vitamin D? Some research has shown promise for MS patients with Vit. D.<<

Not only MS, but autism, too, might be directly related to the sun avoidance recommendations of the medical profession that have been standard since about 1990.

Here’s a link to a website that will lead to a paper by Dr. John Cannell in which he lays out his vitamin D3 theory of autism. His theory makes a lot of sense to me.

http://www.ontrackreading.com/dyslexia-puzzle/vitamin-d3-and-autism


35 posted on 08/27/2011 4:54:24 PM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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And here’s a quite interesting letter from a parent to Dr. Cannell, along with his response:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/news-archive/2010/another-autism-case-report/


36 posted on 08/27/2011 5:02:22 PM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: archy

Has any live virus, whether accidentally vaccine-borne (as in the “Cutter incident”) or from the environment, been shown to “cause autism”?


37 posted on 08/27/2011 5:15:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Norseman

Modern milk supplies are usually vitamin D supplemented. Milk content of the diet might be expected to influence anything that vitamin D can.


38 posted on 08/27/2011 5:18:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Yaelle

A few decades back, Readers Digest carried a story about a boy with an apparent case of autism who seemed to accommodate better to new surroundings (which he usually expressed great fear of) when they were introduced to him suddenly. That might be part of the source of the “beat it out of them” meme. That doesn’t prove that meme true — and I despise family relationships that stoop to bullying in any form — but shows how it might be a form, if distorted, of something that was shown, in at least one instance, to be true.

As for the decrying of how medical science fills infants with all kinds of toxins, this needs to be taken with a grain of salt — considering that unless the infant lives in a bubble, it’s going to pick up the proverbial “peck of dirt” from its own environment. Did someone who lives in your house walk in it? It’s fairly likely a bit of it is going to end up in your baby’s mouth when you aren’t watching.


39 posted on 08/27/2011 5:29:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: neverdem

Yeah, scientists who livelihood revolves around propping up industries that hire scientists are going to say vaccines are the cause of autism. Right. Last job they’ll ever have in their field.

Science today is so much more concerned about keeping everyone in line, and the bottom line, and where that next grant is coming from.

The vaccine schedule today is ridiculous. Being given several vaccines at once, on top of that. As the vaccine schedule has grown, it’s not a coincidence that the autism rate has grown right along with it.

These same people scream about mercury and not getting exposed to it yet pump these kids full of thimerosal which is half mercury. In small children and developing brains, this stuff and the vaccines themselves are the logical causes. Especially when the problems occur in the reported cases right after a child is vaccinated.


40 posted on 08/27/2011 5:41:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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