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To: CitizenUSA
It will be 8-1 or 7-2 in favor of upholding ObamaCare imo. I can't see any of the 4 liberals voting to strike it down. Not only are they apologists for the idea that people have a right to health care, but they also think that the federal government has the right to regulate almost anything under the Commerce Clause. Roberts and Alito are not true conservatives in the mold of Clarence Thomas, and Justice Scalia has shown himself more than willing to respect stare decisis, even when it is clearly incorrect. The Commerce Clause has been dead for more than 65 years. The Supreme Court ruled in 2005 that the federal government has the authority under the Commerce Clause to step into California and arrest medical marijuana patients, even though it is legal under state law.

I'm curious as to why you think them upholding ObamaCare would be such an egregious ruling. If they do so, it will merely be another nail in the coffin of the Commerce Clause, but hardly the first. The Supreme Court has only struck down Commerce Clause legislation twice in the past 65 years, and ObamaCare is Commerce Clause legislation. Now if you're saying that upholding ObamaCare would be egregious because the ruling would have profound negative impacts on our health care system then I agree with you, but I find the ObamaCare legislation to be equally as offensive as most of the unconstitutional legislation they have upheld in past years.

8 posted on 08/22/2011 3:08:45 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

Kagan will have to recuse herself since she wrote the defense argument. A 4-4 tie lets stand the lower court ruling. Without the mandate it has to pass the full house because it was passed as a budget recocilliation. O-care is DOA.


13 posted on 08/22/2011 3:31:31 AM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

10thAmendmentGuy: “I’m curious as to why you think them upholding ObamaCare would be such an egregious ruling.”

Even though the Commerce Clause has been warped and twisted in many ways, it’s never meant government has the right to force citizens to engage in commerce. Wickard v. Filburn, for example, didn’t force Filburn to buy wheat.


18 posted on 08/22/2011 3:44:21 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Good, OTOH, is work. It takes discipline.)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy
and ObamaCare is Commerce Clause legislation

I seem to recall the administration was defending the individual mandate as a tax not as commerce. May have been early on and they gave up on that.

30 posted on 08/22/2011 4:48:55 AM PDT by IamConservative (Why has Bear Gryllis never tried to hike out of Detroit?)
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