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To: DJ MacWoW

Contraceptives, used properly, reduces the chance of getting pregnant significantly.
I suspect all of this anti birth control is really Catholic indoctrinated belief. Some of us are not Catholic ( I left the Church- my Bishop sexually molested my male classmate), and therefore do not subscribe to this line of thought .
I have to go to work, will continue this later.


457 posted on 08/22/2011 7:22:08 AM PDT by kaila
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To: kaila

I am sorry about your classmate. The sex abuse scandal was evil & truly awful. But the abuse of children is not part of church doctrine & is a mortal sin. Don’t let the mistakes & faults of human beings separate you from
God.

The Catholic “indoctrination” you refer to is an insult. I’m a 34 year old female who bought into the bullcrap of society about contraception, materialism, and promiscuity. Believe me, I was quite the party girl. Alcohol, trips, club scene, shoes, bags, BMW, you name it. It’s empty & meaningless. There is a tremendous amount of wisdom in the Church teachings about those things. I’d encourage you to take another look.


462 posted on 08/22/2011 7:31:22 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: kaila
I'm not Catholic so you can't use that tired canard. I use plain old fashioned common sense. Oh and statistics. WITH a link.

Report Shows Contraception Failure, 54% Used Before Abortion

The Guttmacher report shows “54 percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method *usually condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant.” These figures are similar to those of a report in Spain showing abortions doubling despite increased family planning promotion.

Contraceptive Effectiveness

Typical Contraceptive Failure Rates

* Implants and injectables 2-4%
* Oral contraceptives 9%
* Diaphragm and cervical cap 13%
* Male condom 15%
* Periodic abstinence 22%
* Withdrawal 26%
* Spermicides 28%

Who is Most at Risk for Contraceptive Failure?

* Cohabiting women.
* Unmarried women.
* Women who live below 200% of the poverty level.
* Black women.
* Hispanic women.
* Adolescents.
* Women in their 20's.

Abortion Statistics

Who's having abortions (marital status)?
64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%.

Who's having abortions (age)?
52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.

Why women have abortions
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).

466 posted on 08/22/2011 7:54:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: kaila

“my Bishop sexually molested my male classmate”

So, you let Satan’s attacks on the Church drive you to spiritual suicide.

I hate it when he wins another soul.


506 posted on 08/22/2011 1:05:50 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: kaila

“I suspect all of this anti birth control is really Catholic indoctrinated belief”

That’s a condescending statement right there.
The Catholic Church has taken the time to spell it out - most notably in the document Humanae Vitae.
Whether you agree or disagree - it is an impressive piece of work.
So if you truly want to understand what makes indoctrinated zealots think the way they do - that would be a great place to start.

I’m sorry about your friend. I had to grapple with a priest myself when I was a child.
It doesn’t have much to do with this topic though.


541 posted on 08/22/2011 3:54:17 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: kaila

And the truth comes out:

“I left the Church- my Bishop sexually molested my male classmate), and therefore do not subscribe to this line of thought .”

It has nothing to do with reason.

It has nothing to do with evidence.

It’s all just about emotions for the those who oppose what is right.

I praise you for one thing at least. I think it’s great that you admitted the real reason why you oppose the truth.


548 posted on 08/22/2011 4:56:44 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: kaila; DJ MacWoW; wagglebee; BenKenobi

Do note that this is basic common-sense belief that is shared by many of us who do not support the right to murder babies — what is your opinion on abortion?


575 posted on 08/22/2011 6:15:10 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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