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American Axle to Close Plant in Blow to UAW (Unions strike again!)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 08/18/11 | Jeff Bennett

Posted on 08/18/2011 2:05:10 PM PDT by TonyInOhio

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To: TonyInOhio

Unions voting themselves out of a job as usual. We need to get rid of Unions then maybe our mfg jobs will come back to the US. Unions were ok 50/60 years ago but no more. Coming from a Flint, Mich. union family unions are no longer needed or wanted. Just a bunch of thugs living the high life on union dues.


61 posted on 08/18/2011 3:14:55 PM PDT by jrcats (Justice is blind and deaf in Florida.)
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To: Java4Jay
I’m not some pro-union guy; I’m Pro-American standing up for the guy trying to make an honest living.

‘Fat Cat’ greedy bastards are constantly trying to reap in the millions and billions on the backs of the working guy.

I see. Evidently business owners aren't making an honest living in your view.

I'm sure the working guys put out of work by this move will assemble the capital, equipment, and contracts needed to revitalize this plant, obviating the need to close it, right? Or does that work not count in the grander scheme of things?

You may want to look up the phrase 'enlightened self-interest' at some point, FRiend.

62 posted on 08/18/2011 3:15:21 PM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: Java4Jay

You are free to find other more suitable employment. You are free to start a competing business and hire employees at $28/hr and “stick it to the man”.

Know this: Any employee can be replaced. Either by another employee or by a machine.

Solution: Find a need the market cannot do without and fill that need more efficiently than anybody else.


63 posted on 08/18/2011 3:22:17 PM PDT by 1forall (America - my home, my land, my country.)
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To: Java4Jay

AAM got hit with a parasite, the union, which killed it. One thing that could have helped the situation is for the union to agree to cut its dues to $0. In my wife’s case, that would be more than $1K per year difference in disposable income.

Not sure, but I’ll bet the union reps still have jobs with the UAW somehow.

Many small business owners earn less than their lowest paid employee nowadays. Will you not be happy until profit margins are cut to zero?

Who will then grow the business, invest in R&D, and most importantly, pay the idiotic corporate taxes and the settlements foisted on them by the tort bar.

Capital does not go where it cannot grow. Why, after 6000 years can liberals not get that through their thick red and pink skulls?


64 posted on 08/18/2011 3:24:32 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: TonyInOhio
Actions have consequences.

Once again, the unions scammed themselves out of a job. Business aren't created to give away every dollar they make to union employees. Simple hourly wages should be enough.

65 posted on 08/18/2011 3:28:18 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Chode

Uh...

It’s CNC, not CMC. And gears are hobbed, not milled or turned.

But hey, you’re the expert, so you can decide how much they’re worth.


66 posted on 08/18/2011 3:29:11 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: null and void

Who is John Galt?


67 posted on 08/18/2011 3:31:00 PM PDT by RGF
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To: RGF
Who is John Gault?

Well, we know for sure it's not Java4Jay!!!

68 posted on 08/18/2011 3:35:27 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Liberalism: the belief that with enough $ one can wish away any natural law he finds inconvenient)
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To: RGF

Just one of my neighbors here in the Gulch...


69 posted on 08/18/2011 3:35:30 PM PDT by null and void (Day 937. The mob is decisive when the law is not.)
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To: TonyInOhio

Gone to MEXICO...!!!


70 posted on 08/18/2011 3:37:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: RinaseaofDs
AAM got hit with a parasite, the union, which killed it.

A&P food company, too. The unions wouldn't cave. The company backed the trucks up to the building one night, loaded the equipment, and locked the doors. Thousands lost their jobs.
The factory building has since been torn down.It was HUGE.

71 posted on 08/18/2011 3:39:57 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: RinaseaofDs
AAM got hit with a parasite, the union, which killed it.

A&P food company, too. The unions wouldn't cave. The company backed the trucks up to the building one night, loaded the equipment, and locked the doors. Thousands lost their jobs.
The factory building has since been torn down.It was HUGE.

72 posted on 08/18/2011 3:40:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Pessimist
yes CNC i missed the N and i know about gear hobbers and broaches but i'd bet a CNC wire-burner will cut better gears than a hobber will... but i don't know their layout

and i'm STILL willing to bet most of them are NOT machinists

ps in days gone by, i was a machinist and CNC programmer in the Flint Glass workers union at Corning Glass

73 posted on 08/18/2011 3:45:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Java4Jay
You say "you people are clueless"....meaning us FReepers, I guess.

Not a good plan..IMO.

Good luck!!

74 posted on 08/18/2011 3:46:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Chode
i'd say very few of them are actually machinists and most of them are merely attendants

I'm sure you are correct. Real machinists are getting hard to find. I'm rebuilding an old Chevy engine and it's not easy finding old school guys who can do this stuff.

75 posted on 08/18/2011 3:51:28 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Java4Jay
Read this before complaining about the big bad boss and corporations.
76 posted on 08/18/2011 3:51:50 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Java4Jay
‘Fat Cat’ greedy bastards are constantly trying to reap in the millions and billions on the backs of the working guy.

Replace 'bastards' with 'executives' and change 'working guy' to 'workers' and you have one of the archetypal democrat/socialist/leftist talking points. Are you Michael Moore?
77 posted on 08/18/2011 3:51:57 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: TonyInOhio

All their products will be sabotaged now.


78 posted on 08/18/2011 3:54:17 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: Java4Jay

If uou were pro american, you wouldn’t be antiwalmart.

Walmart is the most successful company on the planet


79 posted on 08/18/2011 3:59:53 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: Dick Vomer

That’s good.........


80 posted on 08/18/2011 4:02:50 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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