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Sarah Palin tour comes to abrupt halt
Politico ^ | August 16, 2011 | Molly Ball

Posted on 08/16/2011 2:48:35 PM PDT by Beaten Valve

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To: Pining_4_TX
"“I would love to have seen Pawlenty stay in there and allow the voters to decide, not internal political machinery decide who should be in the race and who should not,”

We all know how this straw poll works.If you go and work you get votes. It meant nothing but eliminating Romney down the totem pole but her comment makes no sense. It is almost like she is mad her name was not written in because she stopped at the last minute and when it wasn't she took her toys and went home. Very strange.

Perry is being crowned and I don't think I like him because of that article linked on Drudge of him liking Gore so much. Go Bachmann and Cain!

41 posted on 08/16/2011 3:53:23 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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To: humblegunner

“She did WHAT?”

What, what? You did not know Governor Palin resigned the Governorship of Alaska to begin a run at the presidency?


42 posted on 08/16/2011 3:54:45 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Beaten Valve
Sarah said last weekend that she will make her decision known in September. She didn't say WHEN in September, but she said she didn't want to be thought of as stringing her supporters along.

In the past, most candidates didn't even begin their campaigns until very late in the year before the Presidential elections. Ronald Reagan didn't enter the race until Nov. of 1979, before the 1980 election.

43 posted on 08/16/2011 3:55:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: harpu
The Search Feature

Personally, I don't search for anything.......I got the "view all" thread feature....

44 posted on 08/16/2011 4:03:04 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (You can't forfeit the game Chuck! If you go home you forfeit!)
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To: harpu
The Search Feature

Personally, I don't search for anything.......I got the "view all" thread feature....

45 posted on 08/16/2011 4:03:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (You can't forfeit the game Chuck! If you go home you forfeit!)
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To: dennisw

Michele Bachmann can’t be making too many gaffs like she did today, wishing Evis Presley a commemorative “Happy Birthday,” when this (August 16, 1977) is the 34th anniversary of his death. When the grind of the campaign starts to wear, I hope she has fine tuned her skills to avoid this kind of stuff. I want Mishele Bachmann to shine for the long haul of her campaign.


46 posted on 08/16/2011 4:34:40 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: HwyChile
She needs to either get in or get out.

Oh bull crap, she doesn't have to do any such thing......Once the deadline for declaring who is officially running arrives, those who are in will be in and those who aren't won't. These people have been in the limelight for almost two years now so I think it's safe to say that the public knows who they are, what they stand for and who they're probably gonna vote for.....So I'm not wasting my time worrying about any of them.

People need to get a life and get outside and enjoy the summer while it's still here.......

47 posted on 08/16/2011 4:37:12 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (You can't forfeit the game Chuck! If you go home you forfeit!)
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To: Beaten Valve; Lucky9teen

The latest date she can enter and be on a primary ballot in every state is November 22, 2011.


48 posted on 08/16/2011 4:43:02 PM PDT by CedarDave (Use the FR sidebar to track favorite keyword threads.)
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To: humblegunner

Someone was real mad and let Palin’s husband know they were mad about this.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/iowa-fairgoer-confronts-todd-palin-about-sell-out-sarah-palin/


49 posted on 08/16/2011 4:48:14 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Todd should have decked her.
I’ll bet he could have taken that woman down, you betcha.


50 posted on 08/16/2011 4:54:36 PM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: SuziQ
Ronald Reagan didn't enter the race until Nov. of 1979, before the 1980 election.

Yeah, but look how well that worked out.

51 posted on 08/16/2011 5:18:02 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Beaten Valve
And, tomorrows, Obama’s death tour bus comes to a screeching halt.
52 posted on 08/16/2011 5:21:57 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Pining_4_TX

And how long have you been a Sarah Palin supporter?


53 posted on 08/16/2011 5:24:17 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Lucky9teen

Ronald Reagan did not announce until November 13th in 1979.

The reason conventional wisdom states one has to get in early enough is normally:

1) They have to garner name recognition.

2) They have to get the signatures to qualify for state ballots.

3) They have to have dedicated supporters in all states to get out the drive to collect those signatures.

4) They have to have an on the ground game organization.

5) They have to have the money to propel them forward in the primary.

Sarah Palin has none of those concerns.

1) 99.9% name recognition, in spades.

2) She has crawl over broken glass in a sub zero howling blizzard supporters in all states just chomping at the bit for her to announce. And they can get her name on the ballots just slightly longer than a Nano second.

3) The on the ground game organizations are awaiting her, she does not have to organize them.

4) Money, the day she commits, money will come flowing into her campaign like water over Niagara Falls.

The wife and have put aside $1,000.00 for her, and by most any US standard we are poor people. But it is of utmost importance at this point in time to get her elected, so any sacrifice we have to make will be more than worth it.


54 posted on 08/16/2011 5:56:16 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: RonDog
Not sure I like the William Wallace comparison, in the end he lost the war, along with all of Scotland.
55 posted on 08/16/2011 6:02:05 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: RonDog
Not sure I like the William Wallace omparison, in the end he lost the war, along with all of Scotland.
56 posted on 08/16/2011 6:05:17 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: RonDog
Not sure I like the William Wallace omparison, in the end he lost the war, along with all of Scotland.
57 posted on 08/16/2011 6:05:17 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: RonDog
Not sure I like the William Wallace omparison, in the end he lost the war, along with all of Scotland.
58 posted on 08/16/2011 6:05:17 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Sea Parrot

I’m not. When she first appeared on the scene, I was a fan, but she has not impressed me since for several reasons.

Regardless, I don’t think she intends to run. That is merely an opinion based on what I perceive to be her toying with people and the media. It doesn’t really matter to me if she runs or not. I imagine the Republican establishment has already crowned Rick Perry.


59 posted on 08/16/2011 9:55:57 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: SuziQ; Darth Reardon; Sea Parrot; All
43 posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:55:49 PM by SuziQ: “In the past, most candidates didn't even begin their campaigns until very late in the year before the Presidential elections. Ronald Reagan didn't enter the race until Nov. of 1979, before the 1980 election.”

27 posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:29:28 PM by hans56: “If you want to run as a Republican it can be done at the convention. That's how Eisenhower got it instead of MacArthur.”

The problem with citing past precedents like Reagan and Eisenhower (actually, the Eisenhower situation was a lot more complicated, and happened back in the days when state and city party bosses still ran major parts of both political parties) is that huge changes have happened in our political system since Reagan, and even more since the post-World War II era of the Truman presidency. Things move much faster now, and it is difficult if not impossible to enter late in the race and assemble the organization needed to win. As much as some conservatives like to bash the media, we rely on FOX News, Rush Limbaugh (and yes, Free Republic) just as much as the leftists rely on the New York Times and Huffington Post.

Not only do we have a 24-hour news cycle, we live in an increasingly nationalized political scene in which the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary have assumed outsized levels of importance precisely because elections in those states, with door-to-door campaigning and town hall direct interaction with candidates, is so radically different from politics in most of the United States.

Our candidates for president are forced to compete in Iowa and New Hampshire much like a candidate for county or city office in those heavily rural states. That's a good thing in my view because it forces candidates to deal with real people who have real problems and who can expose major holes in a candidate’s well-prepared policy statements.

The problem is that once those two contests are over, the candidates move into a series of races where “boots on the ground” campaign organizations and money to buy TV ad time are the two most important factors. While there are other states later in the campaign cycle which have dynamics comparable to those of the first two states, most are politically irrelevant or minimally relevant, at least in comparison to Iowa and New Hampshire.

Essentially, if you have a campaign based on political ideals and grassroots support that isn't strongly tied to existing ideological groups or entrenched power players, if you haven't made a decent showing in Iowa and New Hampshire, you're out of the race. On the other hand, a poorly funded candidate who “connects” with voters and makes a very good showing in one or the other of those two states can “upset the apple cart” by winning an unexpected victory, then building on its momentum to make a credible challenge to much better funded opponents.

That's what we saw with Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama in the 2008 Iowa caucuses. Obama successfully beat off far better funded and better organized campaigns by John Edwards and Hillary Clinton; Huckabee successfully proved that evangelicals would not rally behind a socially conservative Mormon candidate if a better alternative to McCain was available, and by remaining in the race as long as he did, he made it very clear that the Republican Party has a strong religious right core group with which none of the major candidates were closely enough identified to earn their support.

Granted, if you've got lots of money, lots of Party organizational support, or deep ties to ideologically focused organizations (which in the Republican Party basically means the overlapping but not identical pro-life and evangelical constituencies), you may be able to win if you enter the race late, make a credible showing in Iowa and/or New Hampshire, and then move on to later races and do very well.

Sarah Palin does have a built-in reservoir of support in the evangelical world, and has virtually universal name recognition among likely Republican voters. She might be able to pull out a late entry into the race, win in Iowa, then make a strong showing in key Southern states, and become a major top-tier contender, especially if other socially conservative candidates back out to avoid splitting the vote and thereby ensuring a RINO wins the nomination.

I can't think of any other Republican candidate who could do so, and the longer she waits the more problems she will have with people who would like to support her but will commit their support to other candidates in her absence.

I'm not really happy with any of the candidates in the race so far, but the key goal for conservative Republicans has to be making sure a RINO does not win this nomination.

60 posted on 08/17/2011 12:33:45 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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