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Obama Talks Up Entitlement Changes as Dems Resist (Holy Cow!)
Fox News ^ | 15 Aug 2011 | Jim Angle

Posted on 08/16/2011 12:17:25 PM PDT by SkyPilot

President Obama has again acknowledged the necessity of doing something many Democrats fiercely oppose -- reforming entitlement programs, such as Medicare and Social Security.

On a Midwest bus tour stop in Minnesota, Obama spoke in favor of changes to entitlement programs being eyed by the 12-member congressional committee charged with finding budget savings that will get past partisan gridlock, stave off future credit downgrades and increase the federal debt.

"There have been times when our side, when Democrats aren’t always as flexible as we need to be," Obama said. "Sometimes I do get frustrated when I hear folks say, 'You can't make any changes to any government programs.' Well, that can't be right."

The president has repeatedly conceded that something must be done, saying Medicare in particular cannot survive without reform.

"We will not be able to sustain that program no matter how much taxes go up," he said in late July. "I mean, it's not an option for us to just sit by and do nothing."

In spite of that, just as the president suggested, many Democrats remain steadfastly opposed to any changes in any of the programs. In fact, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi boasted that Democrats had blocked such reforms in the deficit talks.

"We did protect the benefits, the Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits. That is a priority for us," she said.

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101 posted on 08/16/2011 5:03:56 PM PDT by devolve (If superb graphics offend you/HLS scroll down - If too large simply carefully back away from your PC)
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To: concerned about politics
I'd like to see able-bodied welfare recipients cut off the public teat today - right now - cold turkey. They'll do the jobs "Americans won't do" when they get hungry enough.

This is what poverty looked like during the Great Depression:

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This is what poverty looks like under Obama:

We are the only generation in human history to have "obese poor people."

102 posted on 08/16/2011 5:05:48 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: KansasGirl
He feels safe saying it because Reid and Pelosi stacked the commission with Rats to make sure it doesn’t happen. Obama can say he supports it because there is no chance it is going to make it to his desk. He will SAY ANYTHING to get re-elected.

Yep....but you can be certain anything he might present as a cut will simply be positioning a move into Obamacare...won't be a cut at all.

Need to remember though we know he lies fluently....he's highly deceptive above all else.....there's always a sinister purpose behind statements as that.

103 posted on 08/16/2011 5:47:41 PM PDT by caww
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104 posted on 08/16/2011 5:52:11 PM PDT by devolve (If superb graphics offend you/HLS scroll down - If too large simply carefully back away from your PC)
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To: SkyPilot

When will it stop? I don’t know - hopefully before we bottom out the way England did, when its perpetually greedy never-employed welfare class decided it needed giant-screen TVs and nobody was going to stand in its way.

Very depressing. But I think that if we don’t get Obama and his cronies out of the WH soon, that’s where we’re headed.


105 posted on 08/16/2011 5:54:32 PM PDT by livius
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To: SkyPilot

Isn’t that the truth! Photo says a thousand words about poverty in America.

I recently read an article that there is no poverty in America for those on the welfare rolls. Where poverty resides are with those who refuse to be on the rolls and are struggling, cutting down to the bare minimums and trying to make it work for their families. Even then life for the poor in the US can hardly be compared to that of third world.


106 posted on 08/16/2011 5:57:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: SkyPilot

Obama cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith. End of story.


107 posted on 08/16/2011 6:32:15 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Wisconsin Vote Today: Kim Simac vs. fleebagger Holperin)
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To: SkyPilot

Changing the Social security and medicare programs so that the top payers in get robed of their proportional “investment” is just transforming the unconstitutional programs into even more of a thieving redistribution scheme.

The System needs to be privatized and most of all volunteerized.


108 posted on 08/16/2011 6:43:03 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: rjeffries

Why does no one mention the entitlements we give to illegals? Take away from seniors who have paid into the system but give entitlements to illegals and a lot of lazy butts on welfare who are able to work but why work when they can be taken care of? I am a senior and I always found a way of making some money for food for my kids. I even picked up aluminum cans whe the price was high. Why can’t others use their imagination to help make ends meet? I also worked hard and finally became a nurse at 40 years of age and believe me the emergency room would be full of medicaid receipents instead of going to a doctors office where the charges were cheaper. But no lets threaten the seniors and our fine military.


109 posted on 08/17/2011 12:00:20 AM PDT by paul revere is riding (I'm really a Paula.....Go Cain)
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To: NormsRevenge

All talk. An election is coming up. Yet 0bama has a RECORD and A LOT to answer for. Doesn’t go over too well when he is a proven LIAR.


110 posted on 08/17/2011 2:55:37 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded
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To: Madame Dufarge

Well said. This punk is as disingenuous and corrupt as they come.


111 posted on 08/17/2011 2:56:56 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded
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To: Jim Robinson

He’s definitely in a panicked state and I love it.


112 posted on 08/17/2011 2:59:28 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded
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To: NormsRevenge

This is really very simple. Obama’ pollsters have told him that his base will still vote for him in 2011, no matter what he says or does. They have alo told him that rhetoric like this will give him an advantage with the independents he needs so badly, by making him look moderate. It’s good for Obama.

The funny thing is, this will create a longer term backlash against Liberals, by making it look like Liberals are so radical that even this radically leftist politician rejects their orthodoxy. That will leave a longer lasting mark on Liberalism and Leftism.

It is funny. His gross failures as a leader were making his type of radical leftism look like a total failure, and horribly damaging the movement. Now, as if that wasn’t bad enough, he is coming out and attacking the Democrat base as a bunch of dangerous leftist radicals, even by his radical Leftist standards. So even as he peronally destroys the reputation of leftism by wrecking the country, he points to the rank and file leftists, and says, “those guys will really destroy your country, if you let them.”

He just keeps digging. I almost would have voted for him, if I knew he would do this much damage to the Democrats.


113 posted on 08/17/2011 3:22:25 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.atheoryofwar.com)
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To: JulieRNR21; Impy; GOPsterinMA; Kaslin; org.whodat; BillyBoy

Wow, this is astonishing. I didn’t see that one coming at all. Perhaps there is some triangulation going on.


114 posted on 08/17/2011 4:46:30 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; Dengar01

Sickoflibs has been talking about this. Basically it’s just talk to snow the swing voters. The issue is a non-starter for the entire rat party.


115 posted on 08/17/2011 5:30:15 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
You’re dead on.

Your going to see him talk very conservative from here on out. The Scam is in play.

Soebarkah likes his cocaine and silk.

116 posted on 08/17/2011 7:00:09 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Impy

I concur!!!


117 posted on 08/17/2011 9:44:35 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: Madame Dufarge
He'd announce that he's converting to Judaism if he thought it would save his sorry ass right now. And he'd be lying about that, too. Sure. He has always changed his speeches 360 degrees - according to the audiences. Remember when he said (at first) Jerusalem is the undivided Jewish capital of Israel?
118 posted on 08/17/2011 1:48:23 PM PDT by a_note
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; Dengar01
RE :”Sickoflibs has been talking about this. Basically it’s just talk to snow the swing voters. The issue is a non-starter for the entire rat party.

Me??? Well maybe...

House Democrat: “We wouldn`t cut entitlements or the rate of increase for Obama”

National Debt Politics : How Obama sees the voter as stupid

This way he gets to tell them that he was blocked in fixing the deficit and cutting entitlement cuts, while not having to cut them and instead proposing increases of spending , he can make everyone happy.

119 posted on 08/17/2011 7:59:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: SkyPilot

Do not be fooled it is just obama trying to get reelected by any means possible If he can get the middle to vote for him again


120 posted on 08/17/2011 11:34:28 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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