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Did Perry Even Vote For Reagan?

Posted on 08/15/2011 5:41:08 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear

Rick Perry was a Democrat until Karl Rove convinced him to switch parties and run as a Republican against Jim Hightower for Agriculture Commissioner.

Perry is always mentioning Reagan... But no Yellow-Dog Texas Democrat who was a chairman for Al Gore in 1988 would have voted for Reagan. Some Democrats would have... but not a leading member of the Texas party.

Perry is just too slick. He is not conservative at all.


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To: DRey

How unchristian of you, oh righteous one. Told you - the more you post, the more of you comes forth.


201 posted on 08/15/2011 8:37:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: DRey

>> “I just find it fascinating all the dissimilarities between Reagan and Perry” <<

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Day and Night.


202 posted on 08/15/2011 8:42:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: presently no screen name

Sweetie, please. You’re embarassing yourself. Go on. Go away. Shooo!


203 posted on 08/15/2011 8:42:26 PM PDT by DRey
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To: editor-surveyor

Boy, that really chapped y’all, didn’t it!


204 posted on 08/15/2011 8:43:43 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Katya

Gore was a hypocrite, then and now.

So was his father.


205 posted on 08/15/2011 8:44:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: DRey
First you say....'We are ultimately on the same side'

Then you say....'You are gross, and very misguided.'

LOL!!!!!!!! See, it was spiritual discernment that led me to say Same side? I'm not willing to agree with that at all I KNOW who to agree with or not.

Score one for spiritual discernment!!
206 posted on 08/15/2011 8:45:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: presently no screen name

I hope you understand I am not reading your posts. You are a boor, and terribly misguided. Stop harassing me. Now.


207 posted on 08/15/2011 8:46:58 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

>> “And I’m goign to do my part to let him work through me.” <<

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By supporting a lying hypocrite as a presidential candidate?


208 posted on 08/15/2011 8:47:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Oh, come on. Is that the best you’ve got?


209 posted on 08/15/2011 8:48:20 PM PDT by DRey
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To: editor-surveyor

I was talking to the guy that was harassing me.


210 posted on 08/15/2011 8:50:02 PM PDT by DRey
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Eagle Eye; ansel12; Impy
>> That's an outrageous lie and you know it. He was NEVER a Conservative, period, neither in the Senate nor in the House. His voting record was hardly different from Ted Kennedy's. In 1988, the year he ran for President, his record was 91% liberal. In 1992, it was a perfect 100% liberal. As one of his constituents who NEVER voted for him, I well remember. <<

>> In 1984 when Perry was enlisting for Democrat leadership, Texas went 64% for Reagan, Perry did not vote for Reagan, and in 1988 took over as a leader to defeat Reagan's veep in Texas. I'm a Texan, I was not confused about Reagan and Al Gore during the 1980s. <<

Yep, the "Gore was an old fashioned conservative Democrat when Perry endorsed him" myth was debunked long ago on FR. I never bought the "conservative Democrat" argument, but even I didn't know any better since I was a kid in the 80s and never lived in Texas or Tennessee. If you had asked me a few weeks ago, I would have assumed Gore was more moderate in '88 and probably guessed his ACU rating at the time was 30-40% conservative. Instead, the guy was rated more liberal than Bernie Sanders the year he ran for President! Perry was campaign manager for an envirowacko socialist, plain and simple.

And this history revisionism about Texas RATs were "the conservative party" during the height of Reaganism is the biggest load of B.S. I've ever heard. Imagine if a video surfaced of Perry at a Walter Mondale campaign rally in Texas during the 80s. I wouldn't be surprised if the Perrybots argue "let's look at the context... Walter Mondale was the CONSERVATIVE candidate for President in 1984, Reagan Republicans were the liberals then...", blah blah blah.

This is really looking desperate on their part. Why is it so hard for them to admit that Perry has endorsed LIBERALS in both parties?

Even the nutty Trumpistas that were trying to sell him as a "conservative tea party candidate" never came up with insane cr@p like "Nancy Pelosi was a CONSERVATIVE Democrat back when Trump endorsed her... she didn't become liberal until AFTER the 2008 elections..."

211 posted on 08/15/2011 8:52:17 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: ansel12
You forget that Perry wanted the Reagan Revolution to be burned down by replacing Reagan with Al Gore.

Totally over the top. Elected Democrats are going to back democrats in the primary process, and vice-versa. Just a fact. Perry happened to pick a guy that was on the more moderate end of the party at that time. This issue simply is not a major one, as there are any number of people in our party's history who once were in the opposition.

Let's focus on the issues of the day, and not tear down possible nominees. One of these folks is going to need all our support in a year to end the Obamanation.

212 posted on 08/15/2011 8:53:31 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ansel12
You forget that Perry wanted the Reagan Revolution to be burned down by replacing Reagan with Al Gore.

I'm not sure that's the case.

Certainly Al Gore wanted to burn down the Reagan Revolution. But that's something that wasn't apparent in the 80s and early 90s ... it only started becoming apparent when Clinton/Gore won in 1992 and really didn't come out until after Gore (thankfully) left public service and didn't have to deal with the constraints of elective office (and vying for such)

I remember that time pretty well, because it was when I really began taking an interest (academic and participatory) in politics. Remember that Clinton and Gore were big players in the DLC, which was supposed to be the organization that would drag the Democrat Party kicking and screaming to the right and allow them to win national elections again.

As it was, Clinton and Gore in the White House quickly showed themselves as Left/Liberal opportunists. Something that truly angered and alienated the Conservative/DNC/Blue Dog element within their Party.

I was in DC in the mid-1990s, remember pretty well reading Hotline daily to see which Democrat (and sometimes multiple Democrats) had flipped over to the GOP because Clinton/Gore weren't what they promised to be. The big ones I remember were Richard Shelby, Ben Nighthorse Campbell and Billy Tauzin (a good, but my recollection incomplete, list of 1990s Dem to GOP party switchers can be found here). Nighthorse Campbell particularly, because it was so funny how CNN immediately flipped the "D" on his name (screen caption) to an "R" as soon as he said he was a Republican.

Given the politics of the time (and note that Rick Perry switched in 1989, according to the list. Well before the folks that needed to see Clinton/Gore in action to have their eyes opened), I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this particular issue. NOT endorsing him, just that I'll make my decision on whether to support him or any other candidate on different issues.
213 posted on 08/15/2011 8:53:57 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Minus_The_Bear
This just in:

Rick Perry backed an already-climate-crusading Al Gore in '88

214 posted on 08/15/2011 8:54:35 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: editor-surveyor

No doubt... but the South used to be full of blue dog dems, many who have since become republicans after seeing what the national party became. In fact I still know republicans in North Carolina who run as democrats for local offices.


215 posted on 08/15/2011 9:03:07 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: DRey

I want to thank very much for a most informative post. I will keep your data on file, and share this with others. I am politically active out here in redredred Hawaii, but we all do what we can. Again, thanks for taking the time, Dr.


216 posted on 08/15/2011 9:07:07 PM PDT by jobim
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To: Hoodat

I’m 50 and I regret that I actually voted for Mondale in ‘84 when I was 23 years old and in med school. I really did not pay attention to politics and at that time and my dad was a big lib professor. Once I got married and started earning a living, I changed and continued to become more and more conservative.


217 posted on 08/15/2011 9:09:18 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: DRey
Get lost! No one is harassing you - you are begging for my attention. Only liberals use the victim hood harassing mentality when they are exposed for who they are!
218 posted on 08/15/2011 9:10:44 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: newzjunkey
Thanks for the clarification. Now I know.

There are two reasons that I oppose the vaccine. It has caused harm in some cases and seems to have been pushed through, unlike other drugs that have a good record but still are not given the license. The other reason is the message sent to young people, a green light to be promiscuous, which is both immoral and a gateway to other STDs.
219 posted on 08/15/2011 9:12:23 PM PDT by jobim
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To: Minus_The_Bear

With all the hoopla from the paulnutz, I thought you had some evidence. Looks to be just another fake made up story based on poop.


220 posted on 08/15/2011 9:12:37 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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