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Ministers plan removal of rioters’ benefits
Financial times ^
| 14 Aug, 2011
| Kiran Stacey
Posted on 08/14/2011 6:04:13 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
What is happening next month?
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posted on
08/14/2011 6:41:46 PM PDT
by
TLEIBY308
(Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
To: CharlyFord
"I'll bet this is met with significant resistance. The Government can't really do something this drastic, now can they?? It might hurt someone's delicate feelings!! (/sarc)"
Too bad the government didn't employ the traditional solution for looters and save the legal costs.
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posted on
08/14/2011 6:42:59 PM PDT
by
Truth29
To: Diana in Wisconsin
A U.S. Day of Rage is being orchestrated for Worldwide Democracy for Sept. 17th (think pseudoanarchist, neo-Marxist, globalist). . .A
U.S. Day of Rage is scheduled to start an Occupy Wall Street camp-out on 17/9/2011″ (which would denote orchestration by those who use the British means of writing dates). And as with the Arab Spring, much of the organizing is being done through social media, especially super-popular Facebook and Twitter. see this
link @ Trevor Loudon September 17th, coincidentally just happens to be
Constitution Day. Considering "O" did campaign in '08 on a platform of "Change" . Should we expect any less given this current occupant of the oval office also stated that the
American Constitution is fundamentally flawed to this day?
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posted on
08/14/2011 6:46:02 PM PDT
by
wtd
To: CharlyFord
"Cutting off freebies will be declared cruel and unusual punishment. Cant do that!! " Yup. Their kids will go hungry, can't have that.
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posted on
08/14/2011 6:47:08 PM PDT
by
blam
To: CharlyFord
"Cutting off freebies will be declared cruel and unusual punishment. Cant do that!! " Yup. Their kids will go hungry, can't have that.
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posted on
08/14/2011 6:47:21 PM PDT
by
blam
To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Well, I’m about as ‘dug in’ as I can be. I’ll weather that storm if there is one...
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posted on
08/14/2011 6:51:57 PM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
To: wtd
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posted on
08/14/2011 6:55:31 PM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
To: CharlyFord
“Cotroversial”
Is NewSpeak, and when used in this context invariably means that there is virtually no controversy whatsoever, and actually enjoys about a 95% approval rating, except amongst a vanishingly small percentage of nut jobs who likely had a hand in causing whatever the problem was to begin with.
To: CharlyFord
I hate to be the whinney liberal here but shouldn’t the “feral” rioters just be arrested for the crimes they actually commit? Making new rules and imposing a novel penalty for this particular form of stupidity doesn’t say much for the British rule of law. Wouldn’t this kinda be like our Congress deciding to deny SS/DI benefits to panthers that intimidated voters in ‘08? It may feel good but it doesn’t exactly conform to due process.
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posted on
08/14/2011 6:58:49 PM PDT
by
bossmechanic
(If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
To: TLEIBY308
“What is happening next month?
I seriously hope that you are kidding me...
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posted on
08/14/2011 7:08:59 PM PDT
by
ButThreeLeftsDo
(FreeRepublic.com. Now, More Than Ever.)
To: CharlyFord
As an American, I would observe that this would constitute an
ex post facto law, one of the tyrannies we threw off in our War of Independence.
While a hard line against the rioters is warranted, I object to the application of ex post facto laws anywhere as tyranny, whether wielded by monarchs, dictators or parliamentary majorities, even if they represent a genuine expression of the popular will.
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posted on
08/14/2011 7:29:58 PM PDT
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: CharlyFord
Does the U.K. have their own version of the A.C.L.U.?
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posted on
08/14/2011 7:43:35 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(The only problem some people have with tyranny is that theyÂ’re not the tyrant.)
To: The_Reader_David
This is of course,,,reasonable. But stop and reflect for a moment, our increasingly totalitarian government pushes to be the sole provider of housing, food, income, medical care, retirement, etc.
Imagine protesting a government that can bankrupt you for political protest. Obama is already equating TEA to terrorism. I happen to think that isn’t accidental.
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posted on
08/14/2011 7:53:00 PM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
To: The_Reader_David
Bill Clinton signed a couple of laws with ex post facto elements. The Republicans whined, but no one tried to burn down the Capitol.
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posted on
08/14/2011 7:57:18 PM PDT
by
Melchior
To: bossmechanic
Britain doesn’t actually have a Constitution, but I don’t know where “rights” come in, unless from the Magna Carta.
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posted on
08/14/2011 8:04:23 PM PDT
by
The Antiyuppie
("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
To: The_Reader_David
While a hard line against the rioters is warranted, I object to the application of ex post facto laws anywhere as tyranny, whether wielded by monarchs, dictators or parliamentary majorities, even if they represent a genuine expression of the popular will
agreed.
Instead, prosecute.
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posted on
08/14/2011 8:05:05 PM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
To: Melchior
Whining is not the appropriate response to
ex post facto laws. On this side of the pond, a challenge to their Constitutionality is. In Britain, I'm afraid, they don't have that option, so it's either putting in a new parliament to reverse them, insurrection, or I suppose, a popular outcry to Her Majesty to deny a royal assent to the law. The trouble is, popular sentiment in this case, is in favor of an
ex post facto law.
Having had our thoughts on the subject formed by the Cold War, we forget that the Soviet Union and Red China were unusual in having tyrannies imposed on them by activist minorities. Over the long sweep of human history tyranny usually arises with initial popular acclaim and broad public support.
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posted on
08/14/2011 8:05:47 PM PDT
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
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posted on
08/14/2011 8:42:23 PM PDT
by
stefanbatory
(Insert witty tagline here)
To: stefanbatory
LOL! Always, Baby! You & yours will be safe & warm at Mama’s Compound.
BTW, you are manning the attic turret or the crocodile moat; your choice. Bring a Hot Dish to pass; firearms will be provided. We’re Lutherans, By The Grace of God, LOL! :)
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posted on
08/14/2011 8:47:37 PM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
need to work on my marksmanship again...but first, i need to go to work...
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posted on
08/14/2011 8:53:16 PM PDT
by
stefanbatory
(Insert witty tagline here)
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