Posted on 08/14/2011 12:46:55 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
WASHINGTON (JTA) To some conservative Jews, Texas Gov. Rick Perry would make an excellent presidential candidate. Hes been to Israel more than any other candidate already in the field and has said he loves it. And Perry creates jobs.
But other Jewish conservatives seeking the anti-Obama candidate look at the three-term governor and see something arresting: He believes hes on a mission from God.
Perry has nonplussed longtime Jewish supporters by claiming that he has been called to the presidency and by hosting a prayer rally this month that appealed to Jesus to save America. Jennifer Rubin, the Washington Posts Right Turn columnist and a bellwether of Jewish conservatism, took liberals to task on her blog for treating the event as a spectacle -- it was borne of deeply considered worries about the countrys parlous state, she said but Rubin also expressed caveats about the rally.
His words at the event were restrained but not ecumenical, she wrote. And his use of public office to promote the Christian event was, to me, inappropriate. The event, while scheduled last December, is still reflective of the man who would be president. Would he do this in the Oval Office? Does he not understand how many Americans might be offended? Is he lacking advice from a non-Texan perspective?
Fred Zeidman, an influential Houston lawyer who has known Perry for decades and has hosted him at his home, said, None of us remember him being quite as devout as he seems to be now, but we wouldn't necessarily have known.
Zeidman, who for eight years served as chairman of the board of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, supports Mitt Romney. but Zeidman told JTA that before endorsing Romney that he checked with Perry last December to ask whether he would be running. At the time, Perry said no.
On Saturday, Perry threw his hat into the ring.
"A great country requires a better direction," he said, declaring his candidacy. "A renewed nation needs a new president."
Perry has been a conservative since before he switched parties in 1989 to became a Republican. A cotton farmer and former air force pilot, he led efforts in his first five years as a Democrat in the legislature to pare the budget.
Perry, a devout Methodist, was attracted to Israel from the launch of his career. One of his first acts after being elected agriculture commissioner in 1991 was to create the Texas-Israel Exchange, which promoted information and research sharing. In a 2009 interview with The Jerusalem Post, when he led a delegation to Israel, Perry who around the same time flirted with Texas secessionist rhetoric said the alliance was a natural one.
When I was here for the first time some 18 years ago and I was touring the country, the comparison between Masada and the Alamo was not lost on me, he told the Post. I mean, we're talking about two groups of people who were willing to give up their lives for freedom and liberty."
As much as Perrys heartfelt love for Israel makes him attractive to Republican Jews, it is was the other reason he was in Israel at the time seeking out job creation initiatives, as he has across the globe that has been the basis of his Jewish support.
I became intrigued by Rick Perry when I read his book Fed Up! because it was exactly what I was feeling, Robin Bernstein, who heads Perrys fundraising in Florida, said in an interview. His economic success in Texas is a model for the entire country.
Texas has managed to weather the recession comparatively well, and the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas has reported that half of all U.S. jobs created from June 2009 to April 2011 were in Texas.
Published last year, Fed Up!: Our Fight to Save America from Washington blames Americas woes on an arrogant power elite in Washington Perry, in his first chapter, accuses it of chutzpah and is music to conservative ears seeking relief from what they see as government unbound.
We are fed up with being overtaxed and overregulated, Perry writes. We are tired of being told how much salt we can put on our food, what windows we can buy for our house, what kind of cars we can drive, what kinds of guns we can own, what kind of prayers we are allowed to say and where we can say them, what political speech we are allowed to use to elect candidates, what kind of energy we can use, what kind of food we can grow, what doctor we can see, and countless other restrictions on our right to live as we see fit.
Its a message that resounds with Jewish conservatives save, perhaps, for its defense of public prayer.
By the same token, Perrys declaration last month that the presidency is what Ive been called to sent a shudder through some among the conservative Jewish establishment. This month, it was Perrys leadership in organizing the massive Houston prayer rally, dubbed The Response, and his insistence that we must come together and call upon Jesus to guide us through unprecedented struggles," that led some Jewish conservatives to go on the record with their discomfiture.
"My response to The Response: No, thanks," wrote Jacob Sullum in The New York Post. "My people have managed without Jesus for thousands of years. Why start now?" Sullum also criticized Perry for seeming to abandon his previous let-the-states-decide view on social issues in favor of amendments to the U.S. Constitution that would outlaw abortion and same-sex marriage everywhere in the country.
Sixteen rabbis were among 50 Houston clergy members who urged Perry not to host the rally. National groups like the Anti-Defamation League also opposed it.
He called this rally as a governor, Abraham Foxman, the ADLs national director, said in an interview before Perrys formal declaration of his candidacy for president. He didnt try to camouflage anything. He's pleasant and he's smart, he has good relations with the Jewish community, but this is a conscious disregard of law and authority. What troubles me most is, this is his perception of where America is at.
Bernstein, Perrys Florida backer, said such concerns are overstated. Nobody criticized Moses for being called,' she said. The fact that he upholds the Ten Commandments is very important. I like to believe a man of faith has a moral compass.
Jewish Democrats are eating up the controversy. In a statement, the National Jewish Democratic Council said it was encouraging Perry to run, given that his record will help repel American Jews and remind them why they support Democrats in historic numbers.
Zeidman wondered if, with the rally, his old friend was miscalculating. I dont know that he has not gone too far in his appeal to the conservative wing of the party, Zeidman said. That could prove harmful in a general election.
Still, Zeidman said, it would be a bigger mistake to underestimate a governor who in 11 years in office has wrested much power from the legislature, where it had been concentrated for decades, and who knows how to win.
He should never be underestimated in terms of his campaigning ability, Zeidman said.
"David Ainsman really began to get worried about President Barack Obamas standing with his fellow Jewish Democrats when a recent dinner with his wife and two other couples all Obama voters in 2008 nearly turned into a screaming match.
Ainsman, a prominent Democratic lawyer and Pittsburgh Jewish community leader, was trying to explain that Obama had just been offering Israel a bit of tough love in his May 19 speech on the Arab Spring. His friends disagreed to say the least.
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When Obama was running, there was a lot of concern among the guys in my group at shul, who are all late-30s to mid-40s, who I hang out with and daven with and go to dinner with, about Obama, recalled Scott Matasar, a Cleveland lawyer whos active in Jewish organizations.
Matasar remembers his friends worries over whether Obama was going to be OK for Israel. But then Obama met with the communitys leaders during a swing through Cleveland in the primary, and the rabbi at the denominationally conservative synagogue Matasar attends a real ardent Zionist and Israel defender came back to synagogue convinced.
That put a lot of my concerns to rest for my friends who are very much Israel hawks but who, like me, arent one-issue voters.
Now Matasar says hes appalled by Obamas rookie mistakes and bumbling and the reported marginalization of a veteran peace negotiator, Dennis Ross, in favor of aides who back a tougher line on Netanyahu. Hes the most pro-Obama member of his social circle but is finding the president harder to defend.
Hed been very ham-handed in the way he presented [the 1967 border announcement] and the way he sprung this on Netanyahu, Matasar said.
A Philadelphia Democrat and pro-Israel activist, Joe Wolfson, recalled a similar progression.
What got me past Obama in the recent election was Dennis Ross I heard him speak in Philadelphia and I had many of my concerns allayed, Wolfson said. Now, I think Im like many pro-Israel Democrats now who are looking to see whether we can vote Republican............... -- Jewish Dems losing faith in Obama
It’s my understanding that Perry is also friends with former president Fox of Mexico who is in favor of open borders. Perry also said that Texas doesn’t need or want the same illegal immigration laws that Arizona has.
You aren’t questioning a personal friend of Jesus are you? LOL
Perry in helicopter with Greta (TX-MX border is over 1250 miles)
2007: [excerpt] If you show up illegally, without your card or youre here as a criminal element, Im for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that. [end excerpt] Source
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"......When Obama continued to refuse even five minutes for the Governor, Perry took matters into this own hands and was standing on the tarmac at Austins airport when President Obama stepped off of Air Force One. Obama looked confused, Perry looked determined. Obama still ignored the pleas for help.
Perry again took matters into his own hands, and established an elite unit of Texas Rangers to bolster border security..." Source
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CW: We've been dealt a hand here in Texas (and if you've read my threads you know much of this) where we have a federal government that has not answered the call to protect the 1250 border miles Texas shares with Mexico. Gov. Perry does not believe a fence is the answer to illegals crossing the U.S.-Mexican border. He believes conservative ascendancy will. So we do the best with what we have ($100M/yr of our own state money put up to help secure an international border). We have a lot of crime to combat and pay for because of the illegal activity (drugs, human smuggling and trafficking) generated by an unsecured international border.
We can't refuse to educate or give health care, as everyone in every state is faced with the same situation, but since Perry is a border gov, he's held responsible for illegal aliens, where everyone vents their frustration about the problem using him as a whipping boy (and to make political points and take pot shots). Perry's asked for drones (went to Israel and asked how they protect Gaza Strip), has asked for 3000 people here on the TX border (crickets). Perry has set up an elite Texas Ranger unit to work on the border. Then we find out the Feds have been "running guns" across the border and we've had people killed because of that.
The Texas Dream Act was set up because we have a lot of kids here from the way the feds have allowed this to snowball. Students who have been in Texas for 3 years and graduated from a Texas high school get instate tuition (no benefits -- they pay their way) The entire Texas Senate voted for this in 2001. (The Texas Dream Act does NOT have all the hidden goodies the U.S. Congress "Dream Act" was trying to get into law.)
Perry has said: If you show up illegally, without your card or youre here as a criminal element, Im for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.
The Texas legislature meets every 2 years for 140 days and the governor is allowed to call Special Sessions. He called a Special Session because he had put "sanctuary cities" on the agenda and the legislature dropped the ball -- but the Senate and then the House left again -- giving Gov. Perry nothing to sign (Texas legislators also have elections they'll be facing and no doubt didn't want a vote on this shadowing their re-election bids).
In this just ended session, after about 3 tries to slip it into a bill, a law that required people to show their birth certificate to get a drivers license got through [The amendment, added by Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie, to the education funding bill legislators needed to balance the state budget had originally been included in Senate Bill 9, the so-called "sanctuary cities" bill that failed in the special session. It also had appeared in an omnibus homeland security bill by Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, that died in the regular session......By putting it into law the state potentially undermines an ongoing lawsuit that argues DPS doesn't have authority to check legal status.]. However, the ink on that law was barely dry before it was overturned by a judge as usual.
In this last Texas Legislative session Gov. Perry signed the Texas Photo ID Voting Law -- it took 6 years to get it through -- Only 6 states have a PHOTO Voter ID requirement.
Texas has a long history with Mexico and being "Mexican" does not mean that you aren't an American, or a Texan. A lot of Texans have Mexican heritage or are married to someone who does. Perry doesn't lead with his chin. He's a thoughtful man.
Rick Perry is as ready to fix this as anyone and understands it probably better than anyone running -- or commenting anonymously on a chat site.
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The 2001 TEXAS Dream Act was passed by 100% of the Texas Senate:
"Its important to point out that there is a huge difference in the TEXAS Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO no votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.
These are a few things you need to know about the [2001] Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). Its estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.
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Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach." Source
A whole tanker load of the wet green stuff, talk about over the top silly.
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June 29, 2011: ...."Perry wrote in a letter dated Wednesday, According to numerous recent media reports, American citizens and organizations, together with a coalition of violent anti-Israeli organizations from other countries, have organized efforts to breach Israels Maritime blockade of the Gaza Strip as early as this week.
He continued, The act of funding, supporting, organizing and engaging in these efforts appears to constitute participation in a naval expedition against a people with whom the United States is at peace, as well as material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization and other violations.
Perry said at least two of the ships are registered in Delaware, including one named The Audacity of Hope, which was the title of President Barack Obamas second book.
The letter concludes, I respectfully request that the U.S. Department of Justice take immediate steps to investigate, enjoin and bring to justice all parties found to be in violation of U.S. law by their participation in these efforts. Source
Tell like it is, this Perry loon stuff is beyond, normal.
Tell like it is, this Perry loon stuff is beyond, normal.
The opening salvos of the reinvention tour.
"President Foxs vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexicos citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity."
From a previous article here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2763343/posts
So that is why the Texas Rangers put that mail box on top of the telephone pole. A direct mail connection. Everyone was trying to figure out the “J” mail label.
Do you, or your immediate family, work for the Government or in a political job?
From a previous FR post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2763343/posts
We are fed up with being overtaxed and overregulated, Perry writes. We are tired of being told how much salt we can put on our food, what windows we can buy for our house, what kind of cars we can drive, what kinds of guns we can own, what kind of prayers we are allowed to say and where we can say them, what political speech we are allowed to use to elect candidates, what kind of energy we can use, what kind of food we can grow, what doctor we can see, and countless other restrictions on our right to live as we see fit.
Loved this quote
I don’t know Rick Perry well enough to know if he’s the real thing or just another Huckabee. Or Jimmy Carter, who was also widely said to be Evangelical when he first appeared on the scene.
But I am persuaded that Sarah Palin is a real Christian. And no question that she is a friend of Israel.
No.
Why are people surprised that a muslim mocks the Holy Bible?
Take a trip to Saudi and see what they do with your Bible when you go though customs.
When Obama said what temp we should run our AC at I opened the window and yelled ...
“HEY OBAMA!!!! I AM RUNNING THE AC WITH THE WIDOWS OPEN!!!!”
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