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To: SeekAndFind

I think that “conservative homosexuals” are a terribly oppressed group, attacked from all sides. Yet they don’t have much of a voice, except among the Republican leadership, which they have tried to quietly cultivate for years. To some extent guessing, I will suggest that their “agenda items” are as follows.

1) They see that sooner or later, liberals will hatefully turn on them, like they have the Israelis. That being said, little or nothing in the liberal agenda appeals to them. They like the conservative agenda, both economically and socially, and see no great threat from it, except from those individuals that openly threaten them.

2) They want to keep their quiet and private lives quiet and private, and they want all the protections of the criminal and civil laws that all citizens have. That is, no b.s. “hate crimes” laws, just the same rights and liberties that everyone else has. Generally, this does *not* include homosexual marriage, which they see as a belligerent attack against religion and heterosexuals, solely for the sake of attacking, and they want no part of that.

3) They are intensely aware that liberals and radicals bitterly hate them for having conservative views, and would ruin their lives if they could, either for this non-conformity, pure meanness, or blackmail.

4) They are not big believers in “the homosexual community”, nor do they seek membership in it, recognition by it, and they do not feel they owe it, and its radical and exclusive agenda anything. They reject the more cult-like elements of its membership as well, including breaking off relations with family and heterosexual friends.

5) They are not flamboyant and do not define their life by their sexuality, but by their education, profession, memberships in other organizations, social standing and wealth.


50 posted on 08/11/2011 2:33:31 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
All of your points granted...I agree, you're probably right. I've actually worked, in DC for some folk exactly as you describe, who were homosexual. For that reason, why in the world do homosexuals who like SOME conservative values need their own lobby group? If they agree with conservative policies, they can work within existing groups...and no one will know (or probably care) about their sex life. However, they cannot like ALL of conservative values...as conservatives are usually religious--its what distinguishes us from libertarians--as we see ethics as essential to freedom, and ethics as grounded in religion...and some forms of sexual behavior (like adultery, incest, and yes, homosexuality) are inherently unethical and immoral, in ALL traditional religions/moral systems, not just Christianity.

To me this is as silly as "pro-life" Democrats. Or pro-socialist libertarians. A politically conservative homosexual rejects the foundation of the conservative movement: Traditional values.

Libertines should be libertarian as they are not, by definition, conservative.

55 posted on 08/11/2011 5:25:10 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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