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Posted on 08/07/2011 6:46:59 PM PDT by neverdem
Study hard, receive a science or engineering degree, and your reward will be a well-paying job in your chosen field. That's part of the sales pitch for those trying to attract more women into science. But according to a new U.S. government study, the "reward" includes earning 12% less than your male counterparts.
The 11-page report(PDF), "Women in STEM: A Gender Gap to Innovation," is the first analysis of women working in technical fields (STEM stands for science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) by the Commerce Department's Economics and Statistics Administration (ESA). The study is based on data from the 2009 American Community Survey, an ongoing questionnaire by the U.S. Census Bureau that supplements the decennial census.
The report's overall conclusion that women are underrepresented in the U.S. STEM workforce -- holding 24% of all STEM jobs while comprising 48% of all workers -- won't be a surprise to anyone who follows the issue. But they may find the lack of progress depressing: "Over the past decade, this underrepresentation has remained fairly constant, even as women's share of the college educated workforce has increased," explains a departmental press release on the report, released yesterday.
Acting Commerce Secretary Rebecca Blank, a Ph.D. economist who oversees both ESA and the Census Bureau, tried to put the best spin on the salary disparity between men and women in STEM fields. "There is a gender earnings gap across the economy," she told reporters. "But it's actually smaller in STEM areas than in non-STEM areas." Still, she acknowledged that the salary gap raises larger questions. "In fact, one might think that the smaller [salary] gap might actually draw women into STEM jobs. So it adds to the puzzle of what is it that we are doing inside our schools and our families that makes STEM jobs seemingly less attractive to girls."
Blank said the survey didn't analyze the gender salary gap by work setting, such as industry versus academia. "But we did look at the gap by occupations," she notes. "And what's interesting is that engineering, which has the lowest percentage of women, actually has the smallest gender gap. It's only 7 cents."
She said the gender earnings gap "is one of the big research questions in economics. Why does it exist, even after you control for presumably what are all of the productivity attributes?" Even so, she's willing to hazard a guess. One answer, she says, is that "women don't seem to get the same number of promotions and wage increases as men do."
“When I had jobs that either I didn’t like... was taken advantage of...”
Occurred to me when I worked during college. I was working security at a hospital and the pay scale changed for new security employees coming in. I asked upper management since I was training the new security officers but being paid a dollar an hour less. I was the only female at the time and management essentially said that it couldn’t be changed. I applied to another hospital, got a job offer two weeks later, wrote a “nice” but short letter of resignation and left. I was then getting paid two dollars more an hour and felt great. I left with dignity and my chin up since management was scrambling figuring out how to train the new employees. So... I agree. Use the experience at job one to find a better job at job 2. Just a thought.
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Whenever you see the “under represented” phrase in any writings you know that it is agenda driven.
All of them but this lady.
Stats have proven that women — on average — work far fewer hours per year than their male counterparts.
These studies that compare female wages/salaries to male’s also make no distinction between women just out of college and men who have been in the field for 20 years.
When you take these two factors into account, there is really no difference in what men earn and what women earn. The last report I read pegged the difference at about 97% (women were earning 97 cents to the man’s dollar). But those men who earned that extra .03 cents per hour are the ones who put in the long hours, do not take maternity leave, don’t use all their vacation and sick time.
B.S. Pure B.S.
This has been researched so many times and proven to be a lot of crap.
When relevant experience and education are factored in, there is no statistical difference in salaries.
And in some fields, like engineering, women actually make MORE because the companies have quotas to fill so they are more in demand.
Who gives a DNA Rat’s Rump? They don’t like it, let them find a new profession. I am tired of paying for emotional BS.
this is absolutely correct:
“B.S. Pure B.S.
This has been researched so many times and proven to be a lot of crap.
When relevant experience and education are factored in, there is no statistical difference in salaries.
And in some fields, like engineering, women actually make MORE because the companies have quotas to fill so they are more in demand.”
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further, just as people ignore the reality of “The Bell Curve”, there IS also such an effect for women.
first, there are MORE very low IQ men than women. fact.
but, there are also more very HIGHT IQ men than women.
men have a flatter, wider IQ distribution than women.
so, in their “bell curve”, there are more on each end.
also, women ARE better at certain tasks, memory test, imagery, multi-tasking.
but, men are also better at certain tasks that require tighter focus. which helps in many sciences.
a perfect example, is Chess. even in countries with equal rights for women, like Russia and Europe, there are almost ZERO Chess Grandmasters.
WHY?
Chess has no luck element. Doesn’t require fancy equipment.
You win or you don’t.
Why the HUGE HUGE HUGE disparity in success by gender???
There ARE more men with sub-80 I.Q.’s than women.
There ARE fewer women with 150+ I.Q.s than men.
(and some of those women, DO prefer to have a family.
which further increases the disparity in total numbers!)
and there are real differences between the brains of men and women. (like women have a BIGGER corpus callosium than men. which helps explain their better multi-tasking and intuition.)
but other mental tasks (like Chess) are better suited to men.
Oh mama. Pings gone wild.
If any employer could hire women and have them do the same job as well as a man for a lot less money, they would do so and kill the competition. The whole thing is bogus.
If men werent idiots we would simply let the feminists die out by picking one thats not a feminist.
Is there no end to this crap in the MSM?
Nope. No end at all. Death, taxes, and idiotic claptrap from the media. You can count on all three.
She was moved out of the Nuke end because she screwed up during an overhaul. She moved into a Systems job and took maturinty leave during a major overhaul. She then was promoted and proceeded to piss off ever one, union and management in operations.
She left the company and proceeded to f-ck up in a Southern Utility. Last I heard of her she was trying get employment at the company I retired from.
Women Gossip Five Hours a Day, Study Shows
Adelaide Now | August 15, 2011
Posted on 08/15/2011 12:14:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2763992/posts
Women talk three times as much as men, says study
Daily Mail | 11/28/06 | FIONA MACRAE
Posted on 11/28/2006 6:32:35 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1745125/posts
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