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S & P AA+ rating on U.S. Sovereign Debt not Low Enough ( P.Schiff )
http://www.youtube.com/ ^ | August 05 2011 | Peter Schiff

Posted on 08/06/2011 11:16:02 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Peter Schiff lays the smack down :

- New Zealand is better than USA with AA+. NZ dollar at record high. Net public debt at only 10% of GDP. Far more solvent than USA

- Fiscal situation will continue to deteriorate.

- Another round of money printing coming.

- Monday next week? Market rally behind the Euro, flight from USD.

- Japan spent 50 Billion propping up USD.

- Treasury market will come down, increase cost of financing deficit.

- Downward spiral ensues. S&P, Fitch and Moody`s forced to downgrade again.

- Fed and WH ramps up printing more money, faster. Death spiral continues.

- Any GOP who voted to increase spending should be voted out of office.

- S&P must now review corporate debt and downgrade it.

- Get out of all debt denominated in USD and get out of USD.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


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To: Para-Ord.45

what countries stil have an AAA rating?


21 posted on 08/06/2011 11:53:01 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: agincourt1415

Stop making sense.

That sort of rational thought is verboten in Washington.

EVEN IF the whole Statist Govt. crashed the same elites will still be running the show.

You think they`re going to give up that much power now and the potential to aggrandize even more in a self manufactured “crisis” by going to a 10% T.T. , devolve medicare/cade and SS to the States, end all unconstitutional government programs !?


22 posted on 08/06/2011 12:03:54 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: TheRightGuy

Canada, Germany, NZ, France, UK,Switzerland i think


23 posted on 08/06/2011 12:05:18 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
Larry Kudlow had Stephen Moore of the Club for Growth and John McIntyre of RealClearPolitics on his radio show today, and all three of them agreed that it is absurd for any rating agency to assign something other than a AAA rating to U.S. government debt.

Their rationale was very simple: "Does anyone on this planet really believe that the U.S. is more likely to default on its debt than countries like Germany, France and Canada?"

The whole idea is preposterous, though I'm happy to see S&P downgrade U.S. debt for symbolic reasons. This country really needs a slap in the face and a kick in the @ss to get our financial affairs in order.

24 posted on 08/06/2011 12:16:25 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: agincourt1415

An interesting idea. I suspect that it would also put a curb on some of the computer generated trading that leads to flash crashes.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 12:17:29 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Para-Ord.45
Not 10%, its less than, lets say .3 to .9 maybe. Forex would be lower. Tiered for larger volume.

This is already being talked about in Washington, but they are too stupid, to realize the true benefits. The EU is looking at it too. Again, stupid socialists want it as an add on tax. This is not add on, it pays for everything.

It will happen, because its the only WAY OUT of this mess, and get our economy back.

How many of you are emotional about keeping the Income Tax?

26 posted on 08/06/2011 12:17:39 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Tired of the current State, and Federal Tax System go here: APTTAX.com)
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To: Ohioan

Bfl.


27 posted on 08/06/2011 12:19:44 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Ohioan
The traders will be pissed off for 5 seconds till they realize THERE IS NO CAPITAL GAINS TAX!

We will give volume discounts, and let them continue to TRADE LIKE before!

The market will go to 20,000 in a few months, the economy is tax free, GO LONG on everything!

28 posted on 08/06/2011 12:19:58 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Tired of the current State, and Federal Tax System go here: APTTAX.com)
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To: Ohioan

Bfl.


29 posted on 08/06/2011 12:20:01 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Ohioan
I agree with everything you've said about the path this country has taken since FDR, but that misses the whole point of a credit rating. What other credit instruments since the 1930s have outperformed U.S. Treasury bills in terms of safety and reliability? Government bonds from Nazi Gerrmany? Japanese bonds from the Hirohito regime? Corporate bonds issued by General Motors?
30 posted on 08/06/2011 12:21:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Keynesian economics corrupted much of the Western World. So, no, most of the major national debt offerings since the 1930 have been even worse investments than U. S, Bills & Bonds. There are exceptions, of course. Any Swiss Franc denominated obligation, for the obvious. The Swiss Franc at one time was worth 20 cents (U.S.). It has lately been worth well over a dollar. The dollar is now worth only about 77% of a Swiss Franc. Whose bond would you rather cash in?

Now there are bonds that have guarantees against currency devaluation. But the history of such is suspect. When they are really needed, they may not function as promised. When FDR devalued the $ from 1/20.67 ounces of gold to 1/35 ounces of gold; he also repudiated the gold clauses in such bonds. And one of the most tragic of the many terrible 20th Century Supreme Court cases, was the one where by a 5 to 4 vote, they allowed FDR to get away with it.

William Flax

31 posted on 08/06/2011 12:33:23 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: TheRightGuy

Found it:

18 Countries with a higher credit rating than the United States.

http://michigantaxes.com/wordpress/2011/08/18-reasons-to-view-the-debt-decision-negatively/


32 posted on 08/06/2011 3:11:33 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgNLTb58K_Y&feature=channel_video_title

I love Schiffs’ clips. Brilliant.


33 posted on 08/06/2011 3:20:00 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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