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WARREN JEFFS TRIAL: State shows bed photos; Jeffs leaves court during testimony
The San Angelo Standard Times ^ | August 5, 2011 | Matthew Waller

Posted on 08/06/2011 7:48:37 AM PDT by MizSterious

WARREN JEFFS TRIAL: State shows bed photos; Jeffs leaves court during testimony

Jeffs leaves court during testimony

* By Matthew Waller
* San Angelo Standard Times
* Posted August 5, 2011 at 4:06 p.m., updated August 5, 2011 at 9:56 p.m.

SAN ANGELO, Texas — Warren Jeffs didn't want to be in the courtroom when the state presented evidence against him for the sentencing phase of his trial.

His former lead attorney returned to represent him while Jeffs was voluntarily absent.

So Jeffs, the leader and "prophet" of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, didn't see the pictures of the temple beds.

Friday afternoon the state revealed pictures of beds in the temple building at the Yearning for Zion Ranch, the 1,700-acre property in Schleicher County raided in April 2008 amid allegations that sexual abuse of children was taking place.

A former FLDS member, Rebecca Musser, testified for the prosecution Friday that she had received training before the temple was built about how beds in it would be used for sexual matters. She said what she had been taught about the presence of witnesses and someone to record the events matched what she saw at the temple outside San Angelo.

"We would learn the best ways to conceive children," Musser said about what she was taught was to happen at the temple.

(Excerpt) Read more at gosanangelo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: flds; mormon; rape; warrenjeffs
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To: caww

then abused woman generally are willing to settle for any bit of pleasure or signs of hope until the next happening...and that can play out for years.

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They believe they are happy because they are told they are happy. To these women (and LDS women in general) being the least bit unhappy is a very grave sin and ‘proof’ that you are not ‘living the gospel’. So, they convince themselves they are happy and content. They are also very brainwashed to fear the outside world, told lies about it and lies about what will happen to them if they leave.


41 posted on 08/06/2011 9:50:56 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: caww
""""Additionally woman have a need for a sense of security in these cults....."""""

You are so right about this.

I recently got to know a 2nd cousin, through my own genealogy work. She was raised a Baptist and has now become a Mormon,(I am not a LDS CULT member, ok)

In asking about her mother and grandmother. She then showed me a picture of her mother, sitting very close to her girlfriend. I let is pass, without saying anything.

A little later she told me her mother and that friend were more than close and the community accepted it. I said, "Are you telling me she was a lesbian?", she shook her head yes.

Her mother's raised her, very nice woman, but seems to be very confused. I think as she was growing up in that home, it must have been very hard for her to figure out how her mother's lifestyle and the Baptist teachings made any sense, and I'm sure the community was talking about this. She was probably ridiculed in school as well.

In searching for something to make any sense, the LDS came to the rescue and took her in. The LDS only seek very weak minded people.

Saw this happen to another woman when her husband died. She too joined the LDS cult, she told my mom, "they were the only ones to come to me"

Instead of reaching out herself to find spiritual help, she opened her door to LDS fraud, with no effort on her part. These people are mostly just lazy.

42 posted on 08/06/2011 9:52:04 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: annieokie; caww

I see not much differance between the FLDS or the LDS and they Muslims.

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Praise God! You ‘get it’. I get so tired of people on FR who don’t and think this is part of the LDS past.

The doctrines haven’t changed, just the practice is limited and then only to a degree.


43 posted on 08/06/2011 9:58:01 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

And Praise the Lord for you, as I read your TAG LINE. That is praiseworthy.


44 posted on 08/06/2011 10:03:51 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: reaganaut

Seems to me they’re pretty much all on the same page....maybe one abuses more than the other is all. But they all are surely messed up with cultish thinking at every level.


45 posted on 08/06/2011 10:04:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: annieokie
The LDS only seek very weak minded people.

I'm not sure I buy that entirely....I think they also shoose those with big pocketbooks and then funnel them thru rank and file rather quickly, perhaps bypassing some of the darker side of LDS which might discourage them. Scientology does this as do other cults...they cater to the elite types as a means of getting to their purses.

46 posted on 08/06/2011 10:07:28 AM PDT by caww
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To: reaganaut
Ever think that the Muslims will use the only religious cult so closely aligned with their thinking to gain more access to our system and make the necessary changes?

I believe with all the Mormons in this government now, the muslims have a better chance than they ever had, through their brotherhood thinking being much the same as the LDS.

47 posted on 08/06/2011 10:10:33 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: caww

make that weak minded women and we have a deal.


48 posted on 08/06/2011 10:12:15 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: annieokie

agreed!


49 posted on 08/06/2011 10:14:36 AM PDT by caww
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To: annieokie

It does seem the woman are the first to be baited into LDS. Glen Beck comes to mind as his wife began their venture into darkness. She couldn’t handle Becks issues so sought out something else to stabilize herself to endure. You can be certain the enemy of mens souls always waits on the sidelines for that moment to snatch an individual at their weakest.....becuase it works.


50 posted on 08/06/2011 10:18:07 AM PDT by caww
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To: reaganaut

The attitude is described perfectly in this quote by early Mormon apostle Heber C. Kimball (counselor to B. Young). “I think no more of taking [another] wife than I do of buying a cow.”
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Heber C Kimball, a member of the First Presidency, had forty-five wives, but he claimed that in the resurrection he would be able to have thousands:

Supposing that I have a wife or a dozen of them, and she should say, “You cannot be exalted without me,”

and suppose they all should say so, what of that? ... Suppose that I lose the whole of them before I go into the spirit world, but that I have been a good, faithful man ... do you think I will be destitute there. No, the Lord says there are more there than there are here ... there are millions of them, ...

we will go to brother Joseph and say, “Here we are brother Joseph; we are here ourselves are we not, with none of the property we possessed in our probationary state, not even the rings on our fingers?”

He will say to us, “Come along, my boys, we will give you a good suit of clothes. Where are your wives?”

“They are back yonder; they would not follow us.”

“Never mind,” says Joseph, “Here are thousands, have all you want” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p.209).


51 posted on 08/06/2011 11:46:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: caww

Eve comes to mind in what you are saying as well. Adam had a weakness, she was so pretty.


52 posted on 08/06/2011 11:49:17 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Jeff Goldblum comes to mind. He does both creepy and geeky.


53 posted on 08/06/2011 11:51:43 AM PDT by Pebcak
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To: annieokie

Yeah, thats why he said “WOW, man !!!”

;)


54 posted on 08/06/2011 11:52:26 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Pebcak
Jeff Goldblum comes to mind. He does both creepy and geeky.

He could do it.

55 posted on 08/06/2011 11:55:11 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Tennessee Nana
My gosh, they are as sick or sicker than the muslims. I think I see the pattern or the LDS cultism.

Brother Joseph simply buried his interpretation of the ISLAM book. Low and behold, look what I dug up. ROFL.

Snake oil salesman sold it big time as he moved across the states.

Trouble with all this ISLAM/Morman brotherhood. They are now serving in Congress and changing our laws to more correspond to theirs and gladly accept Islam.

56 posted on 08/06/2011 11:56:54 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: reaganaut

This is not just a thing of the past.
I have a very good friend who has been constantly sexually harassed by a co-worker LDS “Bishop”. In addition to his perverted actions, he has repeatedly told her he wants her as one of his “spiritual wives”. Several official complaints have been made. She has gone as far as meeting with him with her husband and his wife present to make sure he knows she is uninterested and happily married already. Sadly his wife fully supports him in his pursuit of her and others! Other women at work have also made several official complaints and there have been a couple of investigations. Each time, the man is given a slap on the wrist of a couple hours diversity training. He gets a pass because it is a “freedom of religion” issue and because otherwise he is generally pleasant and a good worker. Unforunately, she cannot quit her job at this time.

P.S I also know several fine LDS folks. I just think they are pretty decieved.


57 posted on 08/06/2011 12:11:30 PM PDT by AZHSer
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To: annieokie

WORTH REPEATING:

I see not much differance between the FLDS or the LDS and they Muslims.


58 posted on 08/06/2011 12:17:17 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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That bug eyed blond on Fox and Friends cried when she interviewed the three mormon women whose babies were taken away when the compound was raided. She fell for it hook, line and sinker.

She asked the youngest one how old she was when she got married and the girl didn’t answer the question. Instead she said the authorities lied about her age and said she was 17 when she’s really 23. She looked 17.


59 posted on 08/06/2011 12:25:27 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross

Those interviews were disgusting and phony

The woman would be treated like innocent virtuous victims when the truth was they were no better than a group of single mothers from the inner city

The Bible doesnt day that praire dresses will cover a multitude of sins...


60 posted on 08/06/2011 12:33:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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