I get that. I also know, irrespective of what the MSM and cocktail liberals would like you to believe, that there is a seething distrust (at best) and hatred within many in the black community against whites. Partially this is our fault, because we let the ‘haters’ on the left get away with promoting resentment and false ideas of white suppression for decades now, without the swift and definitive slap-down that these accusations, and those who advanced them, deserved. Every time they put forth the now tired lines about white suppression of blacks and were not refuted, the perceived legitimacy of these claims grew in society as a whole. That led us to where we are now, a place in time at assumed white guilt and perpetual black outrage is rampant.
My point is that there are conservatives of every racial and cultural stripe who are also afraid of what is happening, and they don't feel safe either. The dividing line between us is not race, but ideology. I don't want to give any of those on the left any openings to further advance their ‘divide and conquer’ approach. We should be pointing out that black on white aggression is increasing, not decreasing, and that the ideological underpinnings of this are from the left, not the right.
My friend, I totally understand what you meant. You’re just being “the Good Guy” - which is what most of us are anyway. You’re watching something, in horror, as it unfolds, and trying to rationalize it, as any sane person WOULD do.
The problem is, the other side doesn’t CARE. That mob coming at you can’t be reasoned with, it can’t be intellectualized away, and it won’t be bargained with either. They see YOU as the personae of everything they hate, and they are going to take that rage out on you at that moment.
You have three choices:
1. Run away if you can. Likely, they catch you (unacceptable).
2. Submit to the beating and possible murder (unacceptable).
3. Shoot the loudest, most aggressive motherf’er amongst them right in the face the second his hands come near you, and then move to the next until they cease their hostile behavior, or you’re dead yourself. Or if lacking a firearm (you SHOULDN’T be if you live in a State that recognizes your right to defend yourself) you grab whatever is handy and shove it right in the most accessible and most painful spot - and KEEP shoving it.
After that, if you’re still alive, well, then it’s fine and dandy to try an rationalize it any way you see fit.
We are we are right now because of exactly the situations you outlined, no doubt. But that doesn’t change that we ARE where we ARE, and WHY they’re doing it.
They’re doing it, and that’s all that matters, and you’re on the receiving end (hopefully not).
“My point is that there are conservatives of every racial and cultural stripe who are also afraid of what is happening, and they don’t feel safe either. ...”
Definitely so, and those folks need to step up and declare loudly and vehemently their displeasure and outrage. Silence is tacit agreement. Sort of like the Muzzies not turning in the Jihadis amongst them - you know, those evil “extremists who hijacked a “peaceful” religion”.
“The dividing line between us is not race, but ideology.”
I submit that the moment before the first fist, kick, or brick hits your head, it’s DEFINITELY about race. Most of these morons are too stupid to even understand the left-right political spectrum discussion.
I have ZERO in common with street thugs and gangstas. I grew up poor, in N.Philly, and I did NOT turn out like that. Same environment, same circumstances. What’s the excuse?
Not jumping on you, friend, and my apologies if it seems so. You sound like a decent person, which we all try to be. I’m just a pragmatic realist that refuses to let myself get the hell beat of me by a bunch of rampaging animals - of ANY color.
It just so happens that these folks do it over and over and over again, ad nauseaum, and it’s getting old hearing folks talking about understanding, etc.
I have a family to support, and I WILL survive - by any means necessary.
We’re on the same side, brother. Just looking at it differently.
In fact...after 53 years I think I got it.
We can keep the 10 percent or so and grant them objectivity and say it's not about race but for the other 80-90% it is all about race...even for many liberal rich blacks it's still about race to them.
For us to act like it's not is silly at best and harmful at worst.
And here in Nashville we have huge numbers of white refugees from Detroit and the ones I know are about the only Yankees I've ever met who get it having lived in areas with large black community.
Blacks now own Jackson and it is a hellhole in 70% of city proper..
I don't think any of this is my fault...quite the contrary. My family helped blacks back when they did have something to bitch about and this is how it turned out. It's the major cultural disappointment of my life and I won't live to see it bettered.
Worse it's now infected lower white strata and so now we get that to deal with too and more and more latino barrios popping up every day not exactly happy places for anglos and still it has nothing to do with what we call race?.
It damn sure does to anyone except naive idealistic whites.
I see how white folks have gotten so soft...to the point now where often our women are as powerful and strong as the men and I can see why black men so despise us...we are weak...lack resolve and make excuses and have become henpecked and girlified for the most part...they resent completely what we have because they think we lack the power to hold onto it.
and this is a theme everywhere in the world where folks of color have less as a rule than whites...which means everywhere...even places that had no slavery or colonialism...so why is it like that in those places...depravity and no whites to blame?
so there is no excuse...it's the nature of things and the result of distinctly different cultures all being tossed together by technology but at way different stages of development..culturally
some groups simply act better, govern better, create wealth easier, hold families together and so forth than others and we are right now...especially in Detroit and Jackson living what happens when it all comes to a boil
it's depressing and we have done nothing the past 50 years to help...with our guilt laden meddling like we can save the black race?...that is to me the real bigotry
in fact we have made it worse..black culture under Jim Crow only had 20% bastard kids (whites .05%), only slightly higher crime and corruption and fine manners and most importantly to me they liked me...they were kind to white folks and could distinguish my kind from the Klan..who were a tiny minority
now we just ignore all the collapse around us and make excuses and movies like The Help
I know that family well...Kathrynn Stockett is just another rich southern girl went to NYC and became a liberal b-word and now writes books to make whites rub each others backs over the plight of the black race...meanwhile Rome burns and many like to ignore it
well I'm not and I'm raising my family not to either...one day someone will have to fight for old America or we will be destroyed as sure as I'm sitting here and yes it will involve color
but there will be some on each side...it's pretty obvious who's side black freepers are on and we have goofy whites just itching to collaborate with those who view America and Western Civilization as one big long crime against humanity
Do you not ever think that most blacks, many latinos and even now many Orientals who vote against us see that as a vote against the perceived white economic and political power structure?
they damn well do.....just listen to their leaders pander..so if it's race for many groups then whether you think it is or isn't is sorta moot...it becomes about race whether that is comfortable or not
it's sure not what i hoped for in 1972 but I've adapted...long ago...when I moved North....I saw where the South was headed black culture wise...down.