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To: pieceofthepuzzle; NFHale; Travis McGee; Pelham; dixiechick2000; mojitojoe
I'm from Jackson Mississippi and have lived in Manhattan ..it was sure segregated then and my first experience with hostile blacks, lived in Sierra Leone, Haiti and Jamaica and lived in Rio de Janiero and was married to a Brasilian of Lebanese descent and now reside just outside Nashville metro area and need no explanations about race....having spent most my life in universal, majority or near majority black areas

In fact...after 53 years I think I got it.

We can keep the 10 percent or so and grant them objectivity and say it's not about race but for the other 80-90% it is all about race...even for many liberal rich blacks it's still about race to them.

For us to act like it's not is silly at best and harmful at worst.

And here in Nashville we have huge numbers of white refugees from Detroit and the ones I know are about the only Yankees I've ever met who get it having lived in areas with large black community.

Blacks now own Jackson and it is a hellhole in 70% of city proper..

I don't think any of this is my fault...quite the contrary. My family helped blacks back when they did have something to bitch about and this is how it turned out. It's the major cultural disappointment of my life and I won't live to see it bettered.

Worse it's now infected lower white strata and so now we get that to deal with too and more and more latino barrios popping up every day not exactly happy places for anglos and still it has nothing to do with what we call race?.

It damn sure does to anyone except naive idealistic whites.

I see how white folks have gotten so soft...to the point now where often our women are as powerful and strong as the men and I can see why black men so despise us...we are weak...lack resolve and make excuses and have become henpecked and girlified for the most part...they resent completely what we have because they think we lack the power to hold onto it.

and this is a theme everywhere in the world where folks of color have less as a rule than whites...which means everywhere...even places that had no slavery or colonialism...so why is it like that in those places...depravity and no whites to blame?

so there is no excuse...it's the nature of things and the result of distinctly different cultures all being tossed together by technology but at way different stages of development..culturally

some groups simply act better, govern better, create wealth easier, hold families together and so forth than others and we are right now...especially in Detroit and Jackson living what happens when it all comes to a boil

it's depressing and we have done nothing the past 50 years to help...with our guilt laden meddling like we can save the black race?...that is to me the real bigotry

in fact we have made it worse..black culture under Jim Crow only had 20% bastard kids (whites .05%), only slightly higher crime and corruption and fine manners and most importantly to me they liked me...they were kind to white folks and could distinguish my kind from the Klan..who were a tiny minority

now we just ignore all the collapse around us and make excuses and movies like The Help

I know that family well...Kathrynn Stockett is just another rich southern girl went to NYC and became a liberal b-word and now writes books to make whites rub each others backs over the plight of the black race...meanwhile Rome burns and many like to ignore it

well I'm not and I'm raising my family not to either...one day someone will have to fight for old America or we will be destroyed as sure as I'm sitting here and yes it will involve color

but there will be some on each side...it's pretty obvious who's side black freepers are on and we have goofy whites just itching to collaborate with those who view America and Western Civilization as one big long crime against humanity

Do you not ever think that most blacks, many latinos and even now many Orientals who vote against us see that as a vote against the perceived white economic and political power structure?

they damn well do.....just listen to their leaders pander..so if it's race for many groups then whether you think it is or isn't is sorta moot...it becomes about race whether that is comfortable or not

it's sure not what i hoped for in 1972 but I've adapted...long ago...when I moved North....I saw where the South was headed black culture wise...down.

252 posted on 08/06/2011 11:17:22 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

Stellar essay, wardaddy. Smacked the nail right on the head.


253 posted on 08/06/2011 2:15:23 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: wardaddy
“Do you not ever think that most blacks, many latinos and even now many Orientals who vote against us see that as a vote against the perceived white economic and political power structure?’

Yes. I know they do. I know that huge swaths of minority Obama voters don't like me because I'm white. I've had similar experiences, albeit in different places, as you have had. Actually, I strongly feel that it is people like you who are the most important if we are ever to find a true path to racial harmony, because you know the reality of the situation. The ill-informed know-it-alls who grew up in lily white suburbs and learned all they know about race from their sociology courses and from a pop culture that likes to characterize blacks in 2011 as those who only recently threw off the yoke of slavery are oblivious to the truth, and are part of the problem. You can't fix things without acknowledging the truth. Until we can openly and publicly discuss why a large percentage of blacks don't like whites, and acknowledge that the arrow of racism is not unidirectional, we will continue down a path toward more conflict and disaster.

So no, I don't disagree with you, and I very much get where you are coming from. I think it's high time we start very blunt discussions about race, and throw PC out the window.

254 posted on 08/06/2011 5:51:34 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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