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China Boldly Goes Where Moody's Has Never Gone Before, Downgrades US From A+ To A, Outlook Negative
Zero Hedge ^ | 08/02/2011 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/02/2011 8:06:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As was predicted last week, China's rating agency Dagong, unlike its worthless western counterparts, has come through on its threat to downgrade the US in the event a subpar debt ceiling deal was hammered out. As Xinhua reports, 'Dagong Global Credit Rating Co. said Wednesday it has cut the credit rating of the United States from A+ to A with a negative outlook after the U.S. federal government announced that the country's debt limit would be increased." Confirming that not being branded a NRSRO is the only thing that allows a rater to still think straight (and not in terms of lost client revenue if one goes ahead and tells the truth), Dagong's decision was spot on: "The decision to lift the debt ceiling will not change the fact that the U.S. national debt growth has outpaced that of its overall economy and fiscal revenue, which will lead to a decline in its debt-paying ability, said Dagong Global in a statement." So while Moody's, which is now certified as the laughing stock of the sheep herd (sorry Mark Zandi, you will never be promoted to anything in this administration - we promise you), pretend that all is well and that the only thing better than $14.3 trillion in debt is $16.8 trillion, China demonstrates what happens when a rating agency actually knows how to do addition and/or long division.

And just to make sure that China's intentions are (once again) very clear, the PBOC earlier said that is will continue diversifying its reserve assets and will “closely observe” the implementation of U.S. debt-limit agreement, welcoming the law as ensuring the market functions effectively and investing in Treasuries as safe. The odd sentence out was this: "China will also try to strengthen risk management and minimize effect of fluctuations in global financial markets on its economy." Is the PBOC in the process of implementing a MOVE vol threshold for its bond holdings? It would be interesting if China's dumping of Treasurys is directly proportional to the amount of HFT algos trading them. Then again, that is one sure way of eliminating the high frequency parasites from any market once and for all...

From Xinhua:

The U.S. House of Representatives on Monday approved legislation to raise the U.S. debt limit by at least 2.1 trillion U.S. dollars and cut federal spending by 2.4 trillion U.S. dollars, one day before a threatened default.

The downgrade is a result of fights between U.S. political parties over debt issues, which reflects the government's inability to completely solve the debt problem, said Dagong Global.

The interests of the country's creditors are short of systematic protection both politically and economically, said the agency.

China is by far the largest holder of U.S. debt, with holdings amounting to 1.15 trillion U.S. dollars as of the end of April.

Dagong announced last month that it had put the U.S. credit rating on negative watch for a possible downgrade on expectations of a long-term economic recession in the world's largest economy, partially caused by its economic governance and policies.

Dagong downgraded the U.S. rating from AA to A+ in November of last year after the U.S. government announced a second round of quantitative easing.

The agency said the approval to raise the debt ceiling indicated that there will not be any positive changes in factors that will influence the country's debt-paying ability in the long run.

And elsewhere, from the PBOC, google translated of course.

People's Bank of China Governor Zhou Xiaochuan accept the "Financial Times" reporter, on August 2, U.S. Congress passed the "2011 Budget Control Act," answered a reporter's question.

Governor Zhou Xiaochuan said, we note that on August 2, U.S. Congress passed the 2011 Budget Control Act, the debt ceiling increase long-term deficit reduction plan and the development progress. We welcome this. For details of the bill and phased implementation process, we will further study and close attention. In recent years, Sino-US strategic economic dialogue (S & ED) under the framework of U.S. financial officials to maintain effective communication and mutual understanding.

U.S. Treasury bond market is the world's leading investment and trading products, the U.S. Treasury market volatility and uncertainty will affect the international monetary and financial system stability, and drag the global economic recovery. We hope the U.S. government and Congress from their own and global interests, adopt responsible policy and practical measures to properly deal with debt problems, protect the safety of U.S. treasury bonds and the market run, maintaining global investor confidence, to achieve a strong consensus in the G20, sustainable and balanced growth.

From the domestic point of view, we will take effective measures to maintain stable and rapid economic growth, preserve our economic and financial security. Foreign exchange reserve management will continue to adhere to the principle of diversification, strengthen risk management, minimize volatility in international financial markets, the negative impact on me.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bonds; china; default; economy; manufacturing; moodysdowngrade
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1 posted on 08/02/2011 8:06:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

bump.


2 posted on 08/02/2011 8:07:37 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You know you’re in trouble when Communists say your economy sucks.


3 posted on 08/02/2011 8:08:13 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ken21

Ugh...can we NOW...at this point start blaming the guy from Kenya for these nice bits of news that give us all great calmness and peace of mind? And not mention the name BUSH. Can it be his bowl of cherries now?


4 posted on 08/02/2011 8:09:13 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Patrick1

Interest rate goes up. mcconnell, bony and bammy tells us this was “unexpected” and therefore taxes must go up.


5 posted on 08/02/2011 8:10:38 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: rovenstinez

The usurper’s fault!


6 posted on 08/02/2011 8:18:14 PM PDT by bgill
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To: SeekAndFind

Asia markets are in freefall right now http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia


7 posted on 08/02/2011 8:21:04 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will believe it when I see China sell a large portion of their US Treasuries. Otherwise, this chinese ratings agency is merely a mouthpiece for the Communist Party.


8 posted on 08/02/2011 8:23:27 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Welcome to the start of WW III.


9 posted on 08/02/2011 8:23:33 PM PDT by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well then obviously we can’t afford to buy any more Chinese crap.

Import tariffs would be a good start.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 8:23:55 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: Patrick1

Well put!


11 posted on 08/02/2011 8:24:08 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: rovenstinez

W served up the appetizer with Medicare Part D and TARP, but O has given us the main course and now he’s giving us the dessert courtesy of bipartisanship in Congress.


12 posted on 08/02/2011 8:27:12 PM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: TaMoDee

China will make any additional loans a down-payment on them forcefully invading Taiwan without any US push back. Obowman will kneel and submit to their demands.... go short on Taiwan


13 posted on 08/02/2011 8:30:06 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: SeekAndFind


14 posted on 08/02/2011 8:33:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: hatfieldmccoy
OMG yesterday was horrible and today is even worse.

It is only 11am here and things are in a complete free fall.

I wrote about this yesterday - the pundits and talking heads in the US are all talking about the good news - what good news ??

Anyway I must be in the wrong line of work because my market predictions have been spot on -

be watching the dollar very close - if it drops below 1.2 to the SGD then you can expect it to go to parity within a week. Im expecting this to happen later today.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

15 posted on 08/02/2011 8:33:59 PM PDT by expatguy (The Expat Needs Beer Money - Cough Up!)
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To: Patrick1

“You know you’re in trouble when Communists say your economy sucks.”

Stealing this


16 posted on 08/02/2011 8:36:14 PM PDT by listenhillary (2007 deficit 160 Billion, 2008 - 458 billion, 2009 -1.4 Trillion, 2010 - 1.6 Trillion)
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t look like the Chinese see this situation like the Party’s media.
Don’t think the Chinese will be as patient or tolerant of blatant in your face financial irresponsibility.


17 posted on 08/02/2011 8:40:49 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: mlocher

China has already been selling their Treasuries and aren’t buying anymore. The Federal Reserve picked up the slack when that happened.


18 posted on 08/02/2011 8:43:34 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s alright. Our proud superiors say that all of the Chinese are like monkeys and “aren’t very smart.” We’ll prevail by magic in keeping the Chinese as manufacturing slaves and keep getting all of their money, too.


19 posted on 08/02/2011 8:47:47 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTW, how’s Chairman Mao’s anti-monogamy campaign to put all of the mothers to work outside their homes working out for y’all? The Chinese rejected it, but our divorce/cohabitation industry implemented it big time.


20 posted on 08/02/2011 8:50:39 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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