You want them,come and get them.
Drawn too many lines in the sand already.
Let’s get ready to rumble!
Didn’t know the super congress had this power.
Though I am not surprised. The plans were for a North American Union a decade agao, and this will speed things along.
This BS of acting as if this stupid committee has some degree of power more than the whole body is just that: BS. As for calling them the "Super Congress" I strongly object to that.
This whole debt-ceiling debate was a smoke-screen. The goal the whole time was ramming through this dictatorial SuperCONgress.
The military have more weapons than Kongress. Right now they are not on Kongress’ side after that deal to gut the military finances. So Kongress..try and get em’ We’ll call in the Marines.
“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” Thomas Jefferson
Hmmmm.
I just re-read my copy of the United States Constitution.
I see nothing in there about anything like a, “Super Congress.”
I DO, however, see something about a, “Second Amendment....”
” adoption of a UN gun control treaty “
Go right ahead, start the next phase of this damn Civil War.
I seriously don’t believe that our country is going to survive until 2012.
1. No the debt committee, or "super congress" if you prefer, can't unilaterally approve treaties, they still require a 2/3 majority per the constitution.
2. No the debt committee can't impose gun control, and, (there is some debate on this point), probably can't even introduce anything that is not budget related (Cantor says they can't even propose tax increase only spending cuts).
3.Even under a worst case scenario, that the committee did insert gun control into some debt bill, it would still require a majority vote in the house and senate.
4. No the Republican majority in the house are not going to throw away their political careers by voting for gun control.
5. No the Republicans won't be "held hostage" by the threat of debt triggers and forced to support gun control. The triggers don't go into effect until 2013 even if activated, giving republicans plenty of time to reverse the defense spending cuts in other must pass legislation. Cantor has already said the Republicans in the house would allow the triggers before voting for a tax increase if the debt committee included one. The triggers are essentially toothless political theater.
6. And finally, No the "super congress" is not an all powerful entity that is going to dominate congress from now on, for one thing it's mandate expires at the end of every congress and has to be renewed by the next on, because no future congress can be bound by the actions of a current one. For another, it only has a much power as the House and Senate decide it has, in fact, constitutionally the House and Senate leaders could simply ignore it with impunity, because the only recourse would be to get the courts involved and they aren't going to touch an internal congressional dispute with a ten foot pole.
So THIS was the sub-rosa activity covered by flappage over the debt ceiling. In addition to being able to raise taxes (from each according to his “gifts” to each according to his “needs”), a bump up in federal power, cutting out those pesky dissenting, constitutionally aligned congresscritters.
Should be sporty!
Our own Politburo/Central Committee...
Political leaders be advised, the people are passed the pissed off stage.
ping
“You won’t need the 2nd amendment until they try to take it away from you.” Jefferson
You are so right.
I Do Not Choose to Be a Common Man
It is my right to be uncommon—if I can.
I seek opportunity—not security.
I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me.
I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed.
I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia.
I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout.
I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat.
It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act for myself, enjoy the benefit of my creations and to face the world boldly and say, “This I have done.”
By Dean Alfange
Sounds a lot like: Central Committee, as in:
Central Committee of the Communist Party of Russian Federation
Central Committee of the Communist Party of China
Central Committee of the Communist Party of Cuba
Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam
Central Committee of the Hungarian Workers' Party
Central Committee of the Party of Labor of Albania
Central Committee of the Polish United Workers' Party
Central Committee of the South African Communist Party
Central Committee of the Korean Worker's Party