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To: dfwgator

I should clarify. I mean where it’s possible to have one without the other. For example, in Germany, you can have a church wedding without a civil marriage.

It would, of course, be far better if government were out of the business altogether.


9 posted on 07/31/2011 3:07:24 PM PDT by Gondring (Going d'Anconia)
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To: Gondring

So why is that so great for Germany?


10 posted on 07/31/2011 3:08:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gondring

“in Germany, you can have a church wedding without a civil marriage.”

I believe you’ve got that backwards. In Germany you must get the civil marriage BEFORE the church wedding.


49 posted on 07/31/2011 5:43:11 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
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To: Gondring

I should clarify. I mean where it’s possible to have one without the other. For example, in Germany, you can have a church wedding without a civil marriage.

But then again, politics has a habit of leaving out plenty of convenient facts that can avoid a need for such disputes as we see here. The real aim of the marriage rights is to try and criminalize things that Christians belief, a.k.a a quest to criminalize thought, and probe out the politically incorrect. Of course, Christianity and most other organized religions don’t really for the most part have much effect. I can ignore Mormon missionaries, Jehvoah’s witnesses, and pretty much anyone else who bothers proselytizing or giving handouts as I please. However, according to the whole marriage rights agenda, it’s twisted to the point where what they’re saying is that there’s people out there who think otherwise, because anyone on this planet can think that, people must hurt themselves to say that belief is evil, and so on. Quite the opposite of Thomas Jefferson’s statement which I only partially agree with: It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no Gods, it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. I agree in the sense that while yes, who knows what my neighbor believes, it’s not really at my pay grade to bother trying to probe into every person’s beliefs, that’s God’s job. However, anyone who thinks that it’s their right, politicians with hate crimes legislation included, those are the kinds of people to be scared of, there’s an agende bigger than sanctioning perverse acts, and its about policing thought, something that America was supposedly about getting over.

As for the guys with their 13 or 14 year-old girls, like Jeffs, the guy broke local law, punish the #$%^$# as a pedophile, break up his ranch, and get the matter over with, as you would with any other pedophile, or rapist.


111 posted on 08/01/2011 3:14:39 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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