Posted on 07/28/2011 7:45:36 PM PDT by kristinn
McCarthy said no vote tonight half a minute ago via Echofon
Why won’t Reid just water down CCB and send it back?
Because the RAT Senators would have to vote on a watered down
CCB Bill to send it back to the house.
I agree, Levin is fun to listen to, but the reality is that the re-pubics are bound by there addiction as much as are the democ-rats,
expecting congress to adopt a balanced budget doctrine is like expecting a heroine addict to quit cold turkey because it is making him go broke....aint gonna happen, there will definitly be a massive monumental debt limit increase, I'd bet the farm on it
That West fella who calls himself a Colonel too
West just made the biggest mistake of his soon to be short career.
Nice man, War Hero. But Played by Bonehead. First he came out in support of Boneheads plan, before the CBO scored the plan.
After the defective numbers came out on Boneheads plan West looked like a fool.
Even after CBO scored the Bill, West was out front promoting the bill.
Then, the bottom falls out on the vote and it is postponed. So a lot of people are gonna be asking what Bonehead offered for his vote.
Nice man, brave war hero, but will have a short shelf life in Congress.
Ya think?
In light of the fact that the leaders of the Democrat AND the Republican parties have been pushing a massive monumental increase in the debt limit FROM DAY ONE, and that EVERY SINGLE "PLAN" either party has offered does exactly that, I'd say that about the safest bet around.
Of course even if you win the bet eventually they will own the farm anyhow.
It’ll prob be so lame it’ll get Dem support. Boehner is going to flush the tea party down the toilet on the next deal, count on it.
I knew he was a dud all along. He makes exceptions on abortion.
He voted early on to fund Obama’s school medical clinics, which are nothing more than recruitment centers for the Planned Parenthood killing centers.
Boehner "flushed" the Tea Party down the toilet the first day the freshmen arrived on the Hill, when he lectured them on how they had to be "adults" and support raising the debt ceiling.
however, I am afraid that if the republicans held the senate, there would be no bid for a balanced budget or pullback of spending at all, they would just say "getterdun" anyway, just not as huge and extreme as the Obama locust swarm spending
Reid will then make it into whatever he wants and send it back to the House where Obama will use Boehner’s words against him to pressure him to pass the Senate bill?
Yeppers, Bonehead is about be played by Reid.
Reid is a load and Pelosi is beYOND pathetic. What are those two schlubs even doing in politics? They have done NOTHING positive, ever! San Fran was once a mighty City and Vegas was Vegas. Drastic sadness in both now, from what I’ve heard. No leadership exists in either place. When will folks wake-up?
its all about who catches the political hot potato of the government "default"
They didn't even try to achieve real spending cuts with the Boehner plan. In fact, there are *no* real spending cuts in Boenher's plan, just miniscule reductions in the rate of the already proposed spending increases.
Boenher's bill gives the Dems the debt ceiling increase they want. Why couldn't he at least have made the spending cuts real? And immediate? The country overwhelmingly supports spending cuts (I have yet to see a poll that contradicts this).
“Boehner “flushed” the Tea Party down the toilet the first day the freshmen arrived on the Hill, when he lectured them on how they had to be “adults” and support raising the debt ceiling.”
Share your distrust of Boehner, but a supporting link would be useful. I have never heard this before, and it points to a bias on his part from the get-go.
Speaker John Boehner, from November 2010:
“I’ve made it pretty clear to them [the Tea Party freshment] that as we head into next year it’s pretty clear that Congress is going to have to deal with this,” Boehner said of need to raise the level of debt the United States will be allowed to shoulder. “We’re going to have to deal with it as adults. Whether we like it or not, the federal government has obligations and we have obligations on our part.”
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/11/20/tea-party-freshmen-in-congress-face-reality-check/
WASHINGTON (Nov. 20, 2010) — New Republican House members had barely settled in for freshman orientation this week when their leader delivered a disorienting message.
Sure you campaigned to slash out-of-control government spending, incoming Speaker of the House John Boehner said, but one of the first votes you will cast will be to raise the debt ceiling.
“We’re going to have to deal with it as adults,” the head of the Republican establishment said. “Whether we like it or not, the federal government has obligations and we have obligations on our part.”
Add that together with the fact that every single plan proposed by either party raises the debt ceiling, including the vaunted “cut, cap and balance” bill, which would raise the debt ceiling by $2.4 TRILLION dollars, and it doesn’t take a genius to understand what this has been about all along.
I’ve told folks throughout this charade: There’s only one thing you have to watch, and that is the total amount the legislation raises the debt ceiling.
Everything else is nothing but smoke, designed to provide somebody political cover for the next election cycle.
TY; Hard for me to believe that in the zillion threads I have read on the debt deal discussion that this is the first I have heard of this and why others would not think it a salient point speaking to Boehner’s long-standing prejudice.
I see your point clearly.
I first distrusted him on this particular piece of legislation when I saw the photo of him on the golf course with Obama. I smelled a stench and hoped it wasn’t so.
Thanks again for the links.
Rush was saying how great that was.
The argument was made it was marginally better than Bhoener's plan, but the essential fact it IS better in that it has the plausible outcome a decade or two from now of a government livin within its means.
Rush isn't end-all-be-all 'bout nuthin'. He probably don't konw what the hell he's talkin 'bout in the first place for at least half the time; he's an entertainer first and foremost. People should start getting over themselves concerning all these talkin' heads.
Question is: is anybody interested in living in a country where the government lives within its means?
Glad I could provide the information.
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