Even Rush Limbaugh is saying this right now.
It's a trap.
Club for Growth is opposed also.
Who do I trust: Club for Growth and Rush?
Or Boehner?
This is a no brainer.
Kill it.
So far the Tea Party is holding the line. Boehner will need Democrat votes to pass it.
If they do intend to heavily modify it to Obama’s liking in the Senate, one would think that House Dems would support it now.
"I am starting to wonder if staffers for Boehner and Reid are not actually working together, behind the scenes, on these plans. Despite Reid's attacks on Boehner and the letter from all the Senate Democrats saying they reject the Boehner plan, I am just wondering if this is not for public consumption while they come up with some deal that uses the Boehner plan as the keystone. I could be wrong, as I am trying to piece together the games taking place on Capitol Hill. If so, it means that Boehner will be leading feckless freshman and scared conservatives over the edge with this nonsense, as his plan is a joke. Again, just a thought."
damn rinos are screwing this country again.
Hearing Rush! Boehner needs to get gone!!!!!
Agreed. We should stick with Cut Cap and Balance, which the House has already passed. The Senate hasn’t discussed it because Reid refused to let them consider it. I wonder why?
Cut Cap and Balance is by no means extreme. In fact, it’s barely a start. But at least it’s a step in the right direction. At least it cuts some of the deficit NOW, instead of kicking the can down the road where they can change their minds and never implement any of the promised cuts—as usual.
The House GOP should go back and vote to pass the 2008 budget. This will defund Obamacare, highlight the fact that the Dems have not passed a budget, and cut on the order of 9+ Trillion over the next 10 years.
Sad that Allen West is fallen for this crap.
I already called all of mine yesterday. I was surprised when I got straight through. For pete’s sakes, folks, GET ON THE PHONE!!!!! Tell them to stop the cowardace and HOLD THE LINE!
And now, with Allen West proving to be just another politician worried about his re-election (a bitter disappointment), the GOP gets ready to play its familiar role as Chump of the Year. This should be the beginning of the end of Boehner’s speakership because the Republicans who vote for this will lose the House next year as conservatives stay home in droves. They never learn.
And so what would you have the House do? Nothing?
Because ANYTHING they pass is going to get the treatment you outlined.
Somehow, the right just can’t accept that having a majority in ONE house of a bicameral legislature, with no executive power, does not give control — or, in this case, even much influence.
We have no muscle until November, 2012 — and that only if we can stick together and quit tearing each other apart.
Then the Senate Democrats will send John Boehner back his own plan and dare John Boehner to kill his very own proposal.
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Oh PLEASE!! If the Senate adds TAX INCREASES and all the other horsebleep you claim then it WILL NO LONGER BE BOEHNERS PLAN, will it?
To illustrate how moronic this is, Boehenr could pass a 4 TRILLION dollar CUT in spending over 3 years with NO tax increases and send it off to the Senate, then if Reid stripped the 4 trillion in cuts OUT and added 4 trillion in TAX INCREASES and sent it back to Boehner, he would have to pass it or be accused of killing his own bill.
Where do you get this thinking from?
Blah blah blah all around. If it’s a trap it’s one the average person does not care about.
I follow this stuff every day and I’m sick of it. Obviously neither Boehner’s or Reid’s plan will pass. Don’t see how passing B’s plan in the House makes any difference, in terms of a trap.
Only way not to be blamed is to pass something.
This is all posturing till the real thing.
The House sent the CCB budget to the Senate what, a month ago ??
Force the Senate to deal in plain sight with what was sent, or take the heat for not doing so.
That 02Aug 'deadline' is a WhiteHut strawman.
Japan seems to be doing pretty well with a AA rating.
Republican supporters of this cave-in legislation cite one of two reasons for their support (neither of which addresses the so-called "positive attributes" of the bill):
1. We're so weak this is the best we can do even though it falls far short of what we want, blah...blah...blah; or
2. At least it's not Harry Reid's bill.
(Such ringing endorsements portray a sense of defeatism which, I think, will ultimately hurt Republicans in 2012.)