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China's High Speed Rail System Has First Major Accident
The Atlantic ^ | 7/26/11 | Megan McArdle

Posted on 07/26/2011 7:52:07 PM PDT by Nachum

With all the other horrible events of the weekend, China's high speed rail crash sort of faded into the background. But the toll is horrific: 43 dead, and hundreds more injured after one high speed train ran into another. Critics, such as Michael Sainsbury of The Australian, are now arguing that this is the result of cut corners in the construction process:A picture is beginning to emerge of a network that has been built to unrealistic and politically driven timetables, using a mix of technologies that were given little time to be properly integrated.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinas; high; rail; speed

1 posted on 07/26/2011 7:52:09 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

a network that has been built to unrealistic and politically driven timetables, using a mix of technologies that were given little time to be properly integrated.

Oh, you mean like Obama is proposing for us, in transportation and in space.


2 posted on 07/26/2011 8:03:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nachum

I am not all that concerned with the rail system...that might cost a few dozen lives at a time.

It is the Three Gorges Dam that worries me. If that thing lets go, it will make the Johnstown Flood look like an overflowing drainage ditch.

I hope to God I don’t wake up some morning to that. If it happens, it could be one of the worst human disasters of all time.

The root causes would be the same, though.


3 posted on 07/26/2011 8:06:42 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: GeronL

Choo-choo ping.


4 posted on 07/26/2011 8:08:41 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: TigersEye

Pei Ping.


5 posted on 07/26/2011 8:09:55 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Nachum

They already had a wonderful train between Beijing and Shanghai that goes 100-150mph. Why they thought they need another faster train parallel to that is beyond me. Pure hubris I guess.

I can’t tell from the stores if it’s the new train or the older one that had the accident.


6 posted on 07/26/2011 8:26:33 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

My understanding (it’s been on the new here, I’m in Shanghai waiting for my clients to show up) is that it was a “D” train accident, the older, slower 100-150 MPH trains. It wasn’t the new 220+ MPH CRH “G” trains.

Now, as far as the US is concerned with AMTRAK and all, a 100 MPH train is streakingly fast! But in the rest of the world (like Europe), this would be the slower, Inter-City Express train, not the bullet/high-speed train...


7 posted on 07/26/2011 8:31:35 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: FromTheSidelines; DManA

Sorry, “new” should be news - the effects of jet-lag are to blame! :) That and a heat-index of 125 deg...;)


8 posted on 07/26/2011 8:33:31 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: Army Air Corps

high speed trains to those empty cities they built?


9 posted on 07/26/2011 8:40:58 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

It looks more like high-speed population control. I bet that “surplus” material from construction was sold on the black market.


10 posted on 07/26/2011 8:45:10 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Nachum
this is the result of cut corners in the construction process:A picture is beginning to emerge of a network that has been built to unrealistic and politically driven timetables

It strikes me that this is not the country that will conquer the world. It is the country that will nuke itself in the foot.

11 posted on 07/26/2011 8:54:44 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SamuraiScot
It strikes me that this is not the country that will conquer the world. It is the country that will nuke itself in the foot.

Somehow, I think I agree with you. Besides, they like to party a lot, drink a lot, and screw around. Maybe we should find out what they like to drink and offer to put a factory to sell it at cost over there. Keep the peace.

12 posted on 07/26/2011 8:59:08 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I am surprised Willie Green did not comment on this thread.


13 posted on 07/26/2011 9:05:33 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: SamuraiScot

How many different countries will China split into when the facade finally falls down?


14 posted on 07/26/2011 9:05:59 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Nachum

Free (Tax Payer Provided) Wi-Fi would have prevented that. Where’s Willie?


15 posted on 07/26/2011 9:07:31 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: FromTheSidelines

I’ve got a technology even faster than a 220 mph G train. An airplane.


16 posted on 07/26/2011 9:10:45 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
I’ve got a technology even faster than a 220 mph G train. An airplane.

Reminds me of the In-Laws:

Classic

17 posted on 07/26/2011 9:51:38 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: DManA

Speaking of which, one of my clients is bidding on providing PA systems for China’s new airports...

China’s planning to build 45 new airports in the next 5 years, and 80 over the next decade. Each airport will have at least 3 runways and 50 gates. They can use a few planes to go with those trains!

It’s amazing what it takes to mobilize a billion people, spread out of a country the size of the US...


18 posted on 07/27/2011 12:33:08 AM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: mlocher

Viking kitties ate him and his trains late last year.


19 posted on 07/27/2011 12:47:00 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
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To: GeronL
How many different countries will China split into when the facade finally falls down?

Ooooh. Great question. 25? More? Let's start the list:

Hong Kong So long, low-class Commie iliot! Don't think it not fun since 1997. Not that we gave you time of day! We go make money. You go pound sand. Okay?

Macau Need you like hole in head, Mandalin dog. We go make money like Hong Kong.

Tibet Bye, we meditate and play fo you, Commie fatso. TTFN!

Guangdong We build new empi'e, make toys. Change name: Maybe ToyLand. Maybe WalMa't!

Shanghai If Mao-man need bank loan, no call us, we call you.

Shandong This age of gold, baby! Gold what we got. We open Las Vegas East next week. You want us obey you, Red Boy? Show me money! . . . I no accept Yankee T-bill.

Uighur World Come to Muslim fashion show in Khotan next week, Commie infidel. Show you nice lady headsca'f—twisted on you neck!

Greater Beijing Like Detroit, it will be penniless and crime-ridden, populated by state employees, their families, and slaves. It will also be the only area in China speaking the currently state-mandated dialect of Mandarin. . .

Just for starters.

20 posted on 07/27/2011 9:18:16 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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