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Michelle Obama, Wal-Mart and the 'food desert' problem (Moochelle Want Million$ for Urban Stores)
LA Times ^ | 22 July 11 | Daniela Hernandez

Posted on 07/25/2011 6:14:11 PM PDT by SkyPilot

What a first lady, a chain store and others are doing to try to make fresh fruits and vegetables more available in poor communities.

Nothing’s ever as simple as we’d like it to be. A case in point: Policies that simply increase access to supermarkets may not get people to choose an apple over ice cream, a recent study reported.

Changing people’s eating habits is difficult, in other words. One reason is money. Healthful foods such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, lean meats and dairy, can often be pricey. For the cost of a couple of peaches, a person can get a full meal on the dollar menu at a fast-food outlet. Another problem: The produce in stores in low income neighborhoods is often of low quality.

This is a hefty problem, given that 1 in every 3 children and adults is overweight or obese. Policy-makers and health-food advocates across the country are developing programs to increase access to healthful foods—and make it easier for people to buy them.

Here's a look at some of them:

-- Earlier this week, First Lady Michelle Obama introduced the California FreshWorks Fund, a $200-million partnership between the California Endowment and grocers, healthcare organizations and financial institutions. The project is meant to promote development of grocery stores, farmers markets, gardening programs and other solutions to increase access to high-quality, healthful foods in areas with limited availability (so-called food deserts). Retailers that offer a greater selection of healthful foods and sell less junk food will get easier access to the grants. Organizers said they hoped the program would create 6,000 jobs in California.

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KEYWORDS: fooddeserts; michelle; urbanhellholes
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To: SkyPilot
She better not get between Adam Richman and his dessert...

'How about a nice pie, Mrs. O? Just a little closer now...'

41 posted on 07/25/2011 8:15:18 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Theo

The thread is about “food deserts” as a sociopolitical construct, not real deserts. The people in question can have Amazon.com deliver sustenance food, fuel, and cookware to their door for $100/month.

Emergency preparedness is a discussion worth it’s own thread.


42 posted on 07/25/2011 8:15:40 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: cquiggy

“Healthful foods such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, lean meats and dairy, can often be pricey”

And can often be cheap.
May I introduce you to my A Buck A Plate blog? http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com


43 posted on 07/25/2011 8:19:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: forgotten man

> Grocery store chains don’t operate in ghetto areas because of the shoplifting problems. Pure and simple reason.

I’ve wondered if a different model of store would work in urban areas. I’ve long been wondering if this is the grocery store of the future.

The building would be a fully enclosed warehouse, where no people other than workers were allowed in the back where the food is. It has a front desk or desks.

You phone your order in, it’s picked in the back by workers, and brought out to you at the desk (you could schedule a pickup time).

You look it over to make sure it matches what you ordered and that it’s ok, pay for it, and leave with it.

No shoplifting is possible - the only loss would be worker theft and that’s more easily controlled.

The store doesn’t have to have fancy presentation, lighting, etc. You need less people to handle the food, it’s picked once, not displayed, moved into the cart, out of the cart, into the bag, etc.

In really bad areas the front desk areas could be behind glass like at bank windows.


44 posted on 07/25/2011 8:24:34 PM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: bog trotter
I knew a welfare mom..5 kids...actually a widow... all kids same dad.
She said that seeing as a bag of chips cost the same as a bag of popatoes, why should she spend all that time peeling and cooking potatoes?
I doubt that she’d been interested in peeling carrots either.

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Oh, Ye of little faith and less imagination.

I, for one, can fully appreciate the wisdom of seeking shelter in one of the multitude of Junk Food Oasis dotting the landscape in the depths of the brutal Food Deserts.

I also can fully appreciate and endorse the inherent logic and wisdom in opting for the bag of chips instead of potatoes or carrots. When your most favorite junk food oasis in the food desert is named Earnie’s Discount Drive Through Liquor's and junk food is not all that is on the shopping list it may be prudent to avoid foods that require peeling with sharp edged cutting implements.

Remember, when bad things happen in the food desert, we are the ones who pick up the tab for the emergency room visit and medical bills for follow up care, and social security long term disability payments,ect.

45 posted on 07/25/2011 8:34:44 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: bog trotter

Oh, and I almost forgot the one most important point - it’s all for the children


46 posted on 07/25/2011 8:42:07 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: SkyPilot

Urban Stores = Flash Mobs


47 posted on 07/25/2011 8:44:45 PM PDT by eaglestar
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To: SkyPilot

http://www.wimp.com/danceanymore/

this from 1973, I think mandatory dancing in schools would be cheaper


48 posted on 07/25/2011 8:50:44 PM PDT by mriguy67
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To: SkyPilot

If you’re getting a government check in the first place, that means you don’t like to work.

Exercise and dieting require work and discipline.

Quit throwing money down the toilet on solutions that don’t even address the real problem.


49 posted on 07/25/2011 8:54:47 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: LizardQueen
You phone your order in, it’s picked in the back by workers, and brought out to you at the desk (you could schedule a pickup time).

You forgot one main item, there should be a web site with a list of every item in the store cataloged. Then people could order it either by phone or online and they would not have to guess at what they wanted to buy. Your idea has some merit but with large crowds there would be some drawbacks. You would have to have more than one window and quite a few warehouse workers.

50 posted on 07/25/2011 9:03:04 PM PDT by calex59
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To: SkyPilot

What did Whitney Houston used to say on that horrible reality show?

HELL TO THE NO.


51 posted on 07/25/2011 9:12:00 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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To: SkyPilot
Changing people’s eating habits is difficult, in other words. One reason is money. Healthful foods such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, lean meats and dairy, can often be pricey. For the cost of a couple of peaches, a person can get a full meal on the dollar menu at a fast-food outlet. Another problem: The produce in stores in low income neighborhoods is often of low quality.

I like watching reruns of "The Waltons" on the Hallmark Channel. The Walton children (even the youngest) helped pick peaches for a dollar a day. They were allowed to take all the culls they wanted, which were turned into preserves. I suggest instead of taking truckloads of produce into poor neighborhoods, they bus the poor to the farms and let them pick it for themselves.

52 posted on 07/25/2011 9:20:15 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Ken H

Must be that “good and plenty” clause that John Conyers spoke about.


53 posted on 07/25/2011 9:24:56 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: SkyPilot

If all her cherished miinorities didn’t steal everything they can lay their hands on the major market chains would build stores in their neighborhods.


54 posted on 07/25/2011 9:29:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: calex59; LizardQueen

http://www.peapod.com/site_frameset.jhtml?NUM1=1264180550560

somebody stole your idea. Dang plagerists.


55 posted on 07/25/2011 9:34:08 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: SkyPilot

$200,000 MILLION for a new government program?!?!?!

...Yup, that is what we need, ANOTHER NEW GOVERNMENT PROGRAM :(

Interesting that one thing (maybe the only thing) that Detroit is doing right encouraging urban gardens. It costs practically nothing and the urban poor get to literally reap the benefits of their work....they farm vacant land — a jobs program for youth to teach them responsibility and job sills, and the youth and poor families in the neighborhood get the produce.

Why couldn’t this be done elsewhere? I am sure it would not cost $200 Million for some shovels and seeds!!!!!!!!!


56 posted on 07/25/2011 9:51:58 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: patton

As they say, there is nothing new under the Sun.


57 posted on 07/25/2011 9:53:24 PM PDT by calex59
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To: SkyPilot

Healthful foods such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, lean meats and dairy, can often be pricey. For the cost of a couple of peaches, a person can get a full meal on the dollar menu at a fast-food outlet. Another problem: The produce in stores in low income neighborhoods is often of low quality.


No way 2 peaches purchased IN SEASON would cost more than a full meal on the dollar menu of fast-food outlet. Geez. You buy fruits and veggies when THEY ARE CHEAPER—I.E. IN SEASON. So I don’t eat many bing cherries as they are expensive (except in July when they are IN SEASON), and I binge on strawberries in the spring because they are IN SEASON.

I think one of the reasons for this program is a ploy for queen moochelle to appear like she cares about the common man (or in this case, common family).


58 posted on 07/25/2011 9:58:39 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: SkyPilot
If you want to see more of tax $$$ at work, check out your own area against the Food Desert Locator map. You can zoom in to your own street level.

I was amazed to find that I live right across the street from two food desert areas, even though there are 2 Publix stores and a local fresh vegetable stand within 2 miles of me. And public transportation to 3 more large chain groceries within 3 miles.

Our Federal government is insane.

59 posted on 07/25/2011 9:59:35 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: calex59

Yeah, and it didn’t even cost $200M in tax money.

Actually, I like PeaPod - they accept coupons, charge the same or less as the brick-and-morter, and deliver right to your door.

If you order some minimum amount - no delivery charge. About $100, I think.


60 posted on 07/25/2011 10:04:11 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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