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Mystery prisoner has Utah jail authorities stumped
Reuters ^ | James Nelson

Posted on 07/25/2011 9:38:36 AM PDT by reaganaut

- A mystery man arrested on minor charges more than three weeks ago remains behind bars in Utah while law enforcement officials try to determine his true identity, which he refuses to reveal.

"This is really a strange case," said Lt. Dennis Harris with the Utah County Sheriff's Office. "He just doesn't want to be found."

The unidentified man, who has graying hair, a light beard and is believed to be in his 60's, was arrested on July 1 for trespassing in a parking garage.

He was booked into jail on three misdemeanor charges and has thwarted any chance of release, with or without bail, by refusing to identify himself.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 3nephites; dbcooper; inman; jail; missingperson; utah
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To: matchgirl

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101 posted on 07/25/2011 10:40:35 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: 1rudeboy

Pinged my husband to respond. He’s the attorney


102 posted on 07/25/2011 10:42:04 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: 1rudeboy; reaganaut

Title 77, Chapter 7, Section 15: “Authority of peace officer to stop and question suspect”

The Utah Code does not describe a crime in this section; this section allows the police to question members of the public. Therefore, the unidentified man has not violated this code.

The only crime here is false arrest, for holding a man for a month without charges. The ACLU and ACLJ should both be suing on his behalf because of this violation of his 4th Amendment rights.


103 posted on 07/25/2011 10:47:00 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (weltschmerz: the sadness one feels when contemplating how far the real world is from an ideal world.)
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To: reaganaut

“They obviously took his fingerprints when he was booked, and they don’t match anything, so why are they still holding him just because he wants to remain off the grid?”

If the man does not identify himself, then just “who” is it that would be charged and prosecuted. I think a trial judge, not willing to have the court record reflect the trial, prosecution and sentencing of “Mr. Who”, would send the man back to jail for contempt of court until he identifies himself.


104 posted on 07/25/2011 10:48:30 AM PDT by Wuli (c)
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To: 1rudeboy

You have the right to remain silent..... Now tell me your name or else... something wrong here!


105 posted on 07/25/2011 10:50:10 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Wuli

Nobody, under any state or federal law, is REQUIRED to identify themselves. Black letter 4th Amendment rights.

He has the right to remain silent.

It’s why officers ASK for ID, not order to see some ID.

You can refuse to show it.


106 posted on 07/25/2011 10:52:59 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: reaganaut

It would be interesting to do a reverse aging on him. He looks like he may have been a very nice looking man years ago.


107 posted on 07/25/2011 10:53:21 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Wuli

If the man does not identify himself, then just “who” is it that would be charged and prosecuted

- - - - -
Most states can and do prosecute under the name John Doe.


108 posted on 07/25/2011 10:58:22 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Why isn’t he wearing his Waldo hat????

Waldo has been found!!!! YAY!!!!! :-D


109 posted on 07/25/2011 10:59:17 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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110 posted on 07/25/2011 11:09:47 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: reaganaut

I miss the days when I could travel the United States anonymously, without a stitch of paper in my pockets, man that was a sense of freedom.


111 posted on 07/25/2011 11:13:19 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Perdogg
John Titor?

LOL. Sounds like he's aged a bit since his last reported journey.

112 posted on 07/25/2011 11:14:43 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: Spunky

D. B. Cooper

Zodiac Killer

The Zodiac and Cooper look a lot alike. The mystery man could be either or neither. Most likely, he's just milking his 3 squares and nice cool A/C. Not a bad summer vacation.

113 posted on 07/25/2011 11:17:42 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Hodar

Ping to 103, he shouldn’t be held.


114 posted on 07/25/2011 11:20:14 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: ansel12

ahhh, the good ol’ days.


115 posted on 07/25/2011 11:22:22 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: corkoman

Upon booking the state has an obligation under the speedy trial rule to bring the defendant to trial within 60 days unless waived by the defendant.


116 posted on 07/25/2011 11:24:02 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: mrreaganaut

Methinks I interpret better than I’m accused of doing. ;~)


117 posted on 07/25/2011 11:27:40 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: SES1066

Just call Col Harkness over at Torchwood in Cardiff ... he will ID him for you.


118 posted on 07/25/2011 11:28:19 AM PDT by RainMan
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To: Hodar
What about the 5th Amendment,"nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.
119 posted on 07/25/2011 11:30:20 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

That it is. ;)


120 posted on 07/25/2011 11:31:03 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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