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Start Integrated Immigration Reform: Secure Border, Issue Tax ID Cards, Deport Those Who Don't Pay
Self | 24 July 2011 | Robert A Cook

Posted on 07/24/2011 7:45:23 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE

Request all seriously and intensely critique the following, pointing out flaws and recommending improvements:

Immigration Reform - as the liberals in Washington want it defined within the limits they want to use and the way it has been tried several times before - cannot work. It increases the problems now present, rewards those who break the current law, past laws, and future laws. Worse, or perhaps deliberately so, it rewards the democrat party with more resident illegals to swell their constituents in most of their carefully chosen low income House Districts, provides a ready source of illegal voters, and illegal users of their "services" who will become near-permanent democrat voters in the future.

But, realistic and effective immigration reform is also opposed by those who claim "tolerance" and "mercy" towards the illegals already here(chiefly and regrettably the Catholic Church and liberal Protestant churches; big and little businesses who exploit the illegal's cheap labor; and those who buy and process the goods processed by illegal aliens. And this includes those who buy illegally-produced farm labor, and who use expired-visa/green card aliens who work in data processing, universities, and programming or other higher-wage jobs.

So, against these massive and influential (although selfish) interests who don't really want immigration reform to "succeed" - and who have massive financial and power stakes in NOT deporting existing illegals - how do you proceed?

1. Physically and positively secure the border.

Yes, start with deep double-strung fences and real-time surveillance and instant capture programs near those cities and towns where entrance is (now) fastest and easiest. But those complete measures are most urgently needed at the "usual" crossing where thousands get across every day: at cities, where roads are available on both sides, and where known paths exist from Mexico and into the US interior.

Most the (southern) border can be secured by single fences and patrols - IF (big "if" there!) and ONLY IF those who are captured entering illegally are detained, immediately identified, and immediately deported. Interior access (airports and east/west coast border security is also needed, but securing the border is only one part of the problem. Complete, 99-44/100 closure is NOT needed for the rest of the integrated plan to succeed.

Later, after more things stabilize, continue with a complete double fence and better, continuous patrols and a real deterrence at as many points as are financially and physically prudent. But at least start with a sincere INTENTION of securing all entry points at the border - which neither the Clinton, Bush nor (especially) the Obama administrations (executive on down) do NOT really want to do.

So, what do you do with the illegals already here?

2. Require EVERY illegal alien now on this side of the border get a unique and non-transferable Alien ID Card: with photograph, physical description and date of birth, computer card embed, and two thumbprints. On the embedded computer card, record all biometric data AND all fingerprints and the photograph.

If ANY illegal alien is found without a valid AID Card after the deadline, they get immediately deported. Regardless of status of their visa or number of children, or how long they have been here, or whether they have a job or how they got into the US originally. If they have no AID Card, they are deported.

3. Employment and Taxes. The alien's taxes are paid to that AID tax number - like the present Social Security numbers. To get a refund of any taxes withheld, file a tax statement for federal and state taxes.

No tax return filed against that AID number? No rebate, taxes are kept by the government. No AID number? (or a false AID number or duplicate AID numbers? No employment, immediate deportment of the illegals, and the employer gets a hefty fine. Any AID Card number NOT filing tax forms each year gets deported. AID Tax forms must be filed even if no income is declared, or if income is declared but is charged against a different AID Card number.

4. No adult or child with a valid AID Card gets deported. Ever.

Unless he commits a second felony. (The illegal alien has already committed one felony coming here illegally, and probably several others - like duplicating SSN numbers or evading taxes or driving without a license)

If he (or she) is convicted of ANY other felony, that illegal alien is deported. (Local jurisdiction decides if jail time is served before deportation. (If deported, a convicted criminal illegal is not freed in the other country, but is handed over to the police there.)

Three misdemeanors are ground for deportation. Minor traffic offenses are not grounds for deportation - unless some other crime (like lack of insurance or DWI or having no drivers license at all) is committed during the traffic violation.

5. No alien with a Yellow, Orange, or Red AID card can EVER receive US citizenship (become a voter) unless he (or she) leaves the country and returns through the full and usual process. Any illegal alien who desires to leave the country may use his or her AID Card as their passport without penalty. There is NO shortcut, nor ANY chance EVER to "get into the head of the line, the middle of teh line, or the end of teh line. There is NO LINE to citizenship at all for any aliens here illegally.

Photograph Voter ID will be required for all federal elections for federal positions in all states.

6. Temporary AID Cards may be issued ONLY in person. Permanent AID Cards are issued ONLY in person to the original alien, and ONLY after the national fingerprint and SSN databases are scanned and release that fingerprint from any "wanted" list or previously issued AID Card or SSN. AID Cards can be issued the first time after the alien provides evidence of a valid residence at a valid address preceding the cut-off date, and must present reasonable evidence of the date of birth and location of birth for every Yellow and Orange AID Card. (The intent here is to ensure duplicate cards are not being issued in a machine-like fashion to allow new illegals to get cards by faking old ID's, nor to allow gangs to receive hundreds of cards using false addresses or identical SSN numbers.)

7. Illegal adults (over 16) receive a Orange AID card. Illegal Aliens now prison get a Red AID Card. Illegal aliens (children) under 16 get a Yellow card. All yellow card must be linked to one (or more) Adult (Orange) AID Card.

States may use the adult Orange AID card for drivers licenses - but only if all other usual drivers license requirements (training, exam, eye tests, insurance, etc are met.

States are NOT permitted to issue "regular" drivers license to illegal aliens, since these can be used elsewhere to evade the voter restriction of the AID Cards.

8. Yellow AID cards must be renewed every 4 years at the same time as the Adult AID card is renewed. Adult AID cards must be renewed - IN PERSON - every four years. This renewal requires a SSN verification that no duplicate AID card number has been used, that taxes are paid (tax form filed), that a valid residence remains, and that a job is linked or a valid tax withholding from a job is current. Red (Adult criminal) AID Cards must be renewed - IN PERSON - every year, and may be re-issued only if the fingerprint check comes back negative against the national database for new crimes.

Children of illegal aliens who are born in the US get US ID cards and US citizenship, just like now - the children are not arbitrarily deported nor separated from their parents. If the illegal alien parents are deported, they can either take the children with them, or give custody to another Yellow Card AID card already here.

9. Welfare and taxes. Like resident aliens, red, yellow and orange card AID aliens are ineligible for Social Security retirement or SS welfare funds. They are eligible ONLY for the amount of unemployment insurance they can directly trace to their specific AID number. (False SSN numbers are grounds for deportment.)

AID Card aliens are eligible for emergency healthcare, but must provide an equal health insurance to US citizens for regular care. Long term health care is NOT provided to illegal aliens.

10. Initial and additional AID Card funding is paid for by a 5 percent tax on ALL money orders being sent overseas. That sales tax can be recovered by filing a state and national tax form. Those who file no tax form get no refund. Money Order Sales Taxes are collected a the local level, and are distributed 3% locally (usually to the office issuing the AID Cards) 1% for state, 1% for federal taxes.

Illegal aliens are expected to pay for their cards at issue and at each renewal, just like US citizens are charged a $60.00 Transportation Workers ID card fee by the government for those embedded code ID cards. Their original country of residence will be charged as well if no funds are provided by the illegal, but no illegal will be denied an AID card for reason of finance.


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Your comments and recommendations are requested as input before I send this off. My Congressman has requested a revised copy by the end of next week that will include your comments.
1 posted on 07/24/2011 7:45:30 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

If the US began enforcing its immigration laws, our economy would strengthen......


2 posted on 07/24/2011 7:47:35 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Simply cut illegals off of all welfare programs and public schools. Deport all imprisoned illegals at the end of their sentences.

We might not even need a wall.


3 posted on 07/24/2011 7:47:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
No adult or child with a valid AID Card gets deported. Ever

That's really a bad idea. Why not let them have 2 rapes and a murder free before we kick the foreign invaders out while you're at it?

4 posted on 07/24/2011 7:49:15 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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..won't work, they won't enforce current laws, making new ones makes no sense. Another little item open border people won't recognize...illegals don't want to become citizens...rat politicians will seek their vote and reward them by taxing the rest of us for free benefits for them.
5 posted on 07/24/2011 7:51:36 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I would point out that if there are 30 million illegals, they translate to 50 democrat house seats.


6 posted on 07/24/2011 7:52:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Most of that is pointless. You’ll charge them for the card but its okay if they don’t pay. You’ll tax remittances and then give it back to them.


7 posted on 07/24/2011 7:53:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Half of the illegals are on some kind of welfare, a large chunk are in jail and all their kids are going to taxpayer funded schools.


8 posted on 07/24/2011 7:55:06 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
2. Require EVERY illegal alien now on this side of the border get a unique and non-transferable Alien ID Card: with photograph, physical description and date of birth, computer card embed, and two thumbprints. On the embedded computer card, record all biometric data AND all fingerprints and the photograph.

You have a grammar problem with that sentence. Let me suggest the following corrected grammar:

2. Require EVERY illegal alien now on this side of the border get a unique and non-transferable Alien ID Card: with photograph, physical description and date of birth, computer card embed, and two thumbprints. On the embedded computer card, record all biometric data AND all fingerprints and the photograph. be deported

You're welcome.

PS: don't tell me it can't be done. They came one at a time, they can be deported one at a time. Give them onting to come for and they will self-deport. The rest, we deport.

9 posted on 07/24/2011 7:57:20 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I will only support mass round ups deputizing citizens if necessary due to a shortage of federal officers.


10 posted on 07/24/2011 7:57:59 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

No to your amnesty plan!

Enforce the laws and they will leave on their own.


11 posted on 07/24/2011 7:58:12 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: neverdem; patton; narses; SunkenCiv; SmithL; MHGinTN; GeronL

By really trying to secure the border, and by establishing a cut-off date for adult AID Cards before the legistlation is enacted, “new” illegal aliens (those trying to get in in future years) cannot get AID cards.

Establish a separate (and parallel) effective ID Card program for those LEGAL aliens who want to enter temporarily as seasonal farm workers or temporary workers for a specific period for a specific job. But keep that problem separate from those who want a blanket and complete amnesty for the illegals already here, and who are preventing any border programs from working because they are trying desperately to protect the illegals already here. Take that propaganda weapon away from them.


12 posted on 07/24/2011 8:01:15 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: yldstrk
If the US began enforcing its immigration laws, our economy would strengthen......

More like explode.

13 posted on 07/24/2011 8:03:18 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: yldstrk

And BTW, why can’t you people see that?


14 posted on 07/24/2011 8:05:14 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: yldstrk

I think the first thing that needs to be passed is citizenship like other countries...ie, if you are born here you are not automatically a US citizen.

We are becoming a world of corruption and over throwing of govts. When these happen we “have” to go help those US citizens who have citizenship but don’t even live here or contribute anything to our nation, only take.

I also think we should shut off citizenship for about 5 years so that we can absorb what we have now and rethink where we want to go. Seeing the “new citizens” on the news is not heartwarming the last decade or so to me.


15 posted on 07/24/2011 8:05:43 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Seems a bit complicated and lax but other than that...

As long as that border is truly secure FIRST (not with this government of course)


16 posted on 07/24/2011 8:08:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Michael Barnes

Half of illegals are on welfare and many others are in prison for violent crimes.

You think we NEED that?

They are a drag on the economy, not a boost


17 posted on 07/24/2011 8:10:54 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

What would stop a Mexican from buying a ticket to cananda, and walking south across the border?


18 posted on 07/24/2011 8:15:45 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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“If the illegal alien parents are deported, they can either take the children with them, or give custody to another Yellow Card AID card already here.”

No! No way, keep families together. If one or both parents are deported, the family must be kept together. Children go with the family.

Here’s why: the huge psychological blow of separation from parents is equivalent to essentially being abandonned.

My nephew’s parents split, and the boy came to live with his grandparents and myself. The trauma was horrendous, the psychological toll very high, resulting in 9-years of psychotherapy. And the amazing part is he knew us thoroughly and had lived with us off and on for the first seven years of his life.

Believe me, it is best in the long run to keep families together.


19 posted on 07/24/2011 8:18:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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What would stop a Mexican from buying a ticket to cananda, and walking south across the border?

Hopefully, "Canandian" immigration.

20 posted on 07/24/2011 8:19:44 PM PDT by doc11355
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