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Terrorist proclaimed himself 'Darwinian,' not 'Christian'
World Net Daily ^ | 7-24-11

Posted on 07/24/2011 5:20:59 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Terrorist proclaimed himself 'Darwinian,' not 'Christian' Norwegian's manifesto shows Breivik not religious, having no personal faith

WASHINGTON – A review of Anders Behring Breivik's 1,500-page manifesto shows the media's quick characterization of the Norwegian terrorist as a "Christian" may be as incorrect as it was to call Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh one.

Breivik was arrested over the weekend, charged with a pair of brutal attacks in and near Oslo, Norway, including a bombing in the capital city that killed 7 and a shooting spree at a youth political retreat on the island of Utoya that killed more than 80 victims.

Piecing together Breivik's various posts on the Internet, many media reports have characterized the terrorist – who says he was upset over the multiculturalist policies stemming from Norway's Labour Party – as a "right-wing, Christian fundamentalist."

Yet, while McVeigh rejected God altogether, Breivik writes in his manifesto that he is not religious, has doubts about God's existence, does not pray, but does assert the primacy of Europe's "Christian culture" as well as his own pagan Nordic culture.

Breivik instead hails Charles Darwin, whose evolutionary theories stand in contrast to the claims of the Bible, and affirms: "As for the Church and science, it is essential that science takes an undisputed precedence over biblical teachings. Europe has always been the cradle of science, and it must always continue to be that way. Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I'm not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic. However, I am a supporter of a monocultural Christian Europe."

The terrorist also candidly admits he finds no support within either the Catholic or Protestant churches for his violent ideas.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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To: elpadre
I have read quite a bit about this guy since the terroristic action, I find nothing to support the decription, “Christian fundalmentalist.” What am I missing?

You and I are not inside the liberal echo chamber.

21 posted on 07/24/2011 5:37:23 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: ReformationFan

Something just doesn’t compute. For instance, this young man is described as a farmer, but he looks like a movie star. He plans and executes complex and horrific acts of violence, then, allegedly at the request of a ten-year-old, he abruptly halts the massacre.


22 posted on 07/24/2011 5:37:44 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: ReformationFan

A Viking pagan killer of socialist children? How quaint./s

If this is just the beginning of resisting Islamification in Norway, the left have no chance, no matter how it is spun.


23 posted on 07/24/2011 5:40:25 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ReformationFan

The mediots, including the Nuts Daily want to simplify everything for their simpleton audience to a single word. Ain’t buying it. The dude wrote a 1500 page manifesto. Read it!


24 posted on 07/24/2011 5:41:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: humblegunner

“By the way, you write like a child.

Capitalization is your pal. It makes you look like a grown up.”

Amen to that. And the first letter of a paragraph is a capital letter too, not just the first letter of the SECOND sentence..


25 posted on 07/24/2011 5:42:02 PM PDT by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: ReformationFan
What we know in any event:

The Media lies!

26 posted on 07/24/2011 5:43:18 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: ReformationFan

From Breivik’s manifesto, about 90% of the way through, after many Biblical quotes about righteous self-defense and God’s help in battle:

“I’m not going to pretend I’m a very religious person as that would be a lie. I’ve always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment. In the past, I remember I used to think; “Religion is a crutch for weak people. What is the point in believing in a higher power if you have confidence in yourself!? Pathetic.”
Perhaps this is true for many cases. Religion is a crutch for many weak people and many embrace religion for self serving reasons as a source for drawing mental strength (to feed their weak emotional state f example during illness, death, poverty etc.). Since I am not a hypocrite, I’ll say directly that this is my agenda as well. However, I have not yet felt the need to ask God for strength, yet... But I’m pretty sure I will pray to God as I’m rushing through my city, guns blazing, with 100 armed system protectors pursuing me with the intention to stop and/or kill. ...

“It is likely that I will pray to God for strength at one
point during that operation, as I think most people in that situation would. I can’t possibly imagine how my state of mind will be during the time of the operation,
though. It will be during a steroid cycle and on top of that; during an ephedrine rush, which will increase my aggressiveness, physical performance and mental focus with at least 50-60% but possibly up to 100%. In addition, I will put my iPod on max volume as a tool to suppress fear if needed. I might just put Lux Aeterna by Clint Mansell on repeat as it is an incredibly powerful song. of the mission. ...

“If praying will act as an additional mental boost/soothing it is the pragmatical thing to do. I guess I will find out... If there is a God I will be allowed to enter heaven as all other martyrs for the Church in the past.
I am pursuing religion for this very reason and everyone else should as well, providing it will give you a mental boost. There is no shame in praying minutes before your death. I highly recommend that you, prior to the operation, visit a Church and perform the Eucharist (Holy Communion/The Lord’s Supper ). As we know, this ritual represents the
final meal that Jesus Christ shared with his disciples before his arrest and eventual crucifixion. You should also solve any issues you might have with God and ask for
forgiveness for past sins. Finally, ask him to prepare for the arrival of a martyr for the Church. A hardened atheist may think this is silly, but believe me when I say; you will be extremely glad you did as soon as you realise you may actually die after the initiation of your operation....

“A great majority of people tend to seek out a divine power when they are facing an extreme threat. It is therefore essential and it is strongly recommended that all Justiciar Knights (even our Christian agnostic and Christian atheist brothers and sisters) attend Church before the operation to seek absolution and to request that God infuses our soul and our armour of steel with the armour of spiritual protection and confidence.”

To Breivik, Christianity is tied to Western culture and Western blood. The West is weaker without it. A spiritually prepared mind is an asset to the warrior as are steroids, ephedrine and music, body armor and weapons.

I do not think anyone can fairly say that Breivik is motivated by his version of Christianity. He uses it as a tool.


27 posted on 07/24/2011 5:43:43 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: elpadre

You’re not missing anything. He specifically states in his 12 min video that the European Knights Templar are not religious Christians (Christian Fundamentalists) but rather cultural Christians (Christian Identity). And those are the specific terms he uses.

What he’s doing has nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and he openly acknowledges the same. You’ll never hear this reported.


28 posted on 07/24/2011 5:45:23 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: ReformationFan

I find it interesting that Breivik apparently thinks that Protestants should all convert to Catholicism.


29 posted on 07/24/2011 5:46:46 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: humblegunner

By the way, you write like a child.

Capitalization is your pal. It makes you look like a grown up.


Jeez, lighten up.


30 posted on 07/24/2011 5:47:28 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: July4
Something just doesn’t compute. For instance, this young man is described as a farmer, but he looks like a movie star. He plans and executes complex and horrific acts of violence, then, allegedly at the request of a ten-year-old, he abruptly halts the massacre.

IIRC, he's not a farmer, but owns some sort of agriculturally-based company.

31 posted on 07/24/2011 5:48:24 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: humblegunner
Capitalization is your pal. It makes you look like a grown up.

So does not acting like an overly nitpicking jobsworth.

32 posted on 07/24/2011 5:50:36 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Armed forces abroad are of little value unless there is prudent counsel at home." - Cicero)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“I appreciate your posting this summary of this murderer’s non-allegiance to God, to Christ, or to Christianity as anything other than a theoretical cultural/ethnic bloc.”

I’m very happy to do so, Mrs. Don-o.


34 posted on 07/24/2011 5:52:42 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: fatnotlazy

Labels have been pinned on him and they need to be corrected as vociferously as possible!


35 posted on 07/24/2011 5:52:44 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: heartwood
Lux Aeterna by Clint Mansell
36 posted on 07/24/2011 5:53:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Good point.

So the government sponsored a nationwide attack on people is does not like.

Incisive analysis based on history.

/sarc-off

37 posted on 07/24/2011 5:55:42 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: ReformationFan
Dude sounds like an uber survival of the fittest Darwinist atheist. Only "Christianity" from him is a cultural Eurocentric type and not the New Testament unity of mankind in Christ type as taught in Galatians 3:28 :

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"

That, not PC nor Paganism nor atheism nor Marxism, is the source of the hope of true unity in diversity in this world.

38 posted on 07/24/2011 5:57:48 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: FortWorthPatriot

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I’m gonna get flamed bigtime for this! rotflmao.


40 posted on 07/24/2011 5:58:22 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (PS. The muzlim nations think my handle is a prime example of "hate speach." Oh Well.)
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