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Ex-officers indicted in police Explorer scandal
San Francisco Examiner ^ | July 22, 2011 | From Associated Press

Posted on 07/22/2011 8:48:36 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

Two Richmond officers who resigned in the midst of a police Explorer scandal have been indicted on allegations they intimidated two young Explorers they illegally armed and put to work for their private security firm.

A federal grand jury in Oakland on Thursday indicted 31-year-old Danny Harris and 34-year-old Ray Thomas on conspiracy counts for allegedly trying to prevent the Explorers from telling authorities that Harris illegally bought them guns and sent them into crime-plagued neighborhoods.

Federal law prohibits people under 21 from buying or owning guns.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bsa; cops; crooked; explorers; learningforlife
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This interesting case ties in with the large scale San Francisco Bay Area police/lawyer corruption scandal involving the frame ups of numerous ordinary citizens by set up traffic stops involving paid prostitutes to lure motorist citizens into drinking then to to waiting corrupt cops.

In this case, cops bought guns for kids, then demanded they return them. One kid refused, so they tried using the prostitutes to set him up carrying the gun in his car, drunk.

Somebody, (probably one of the girls) tipped him, so it didn't work, and the kid's info tripped up a large part of the crooked cop/lawyer ring. Several departments are involved.

1 posted on 07/22/2011 8:48:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

I hope these chumps go to jail.

Explorers are given the opportunity to participate in Law Enforcement and the Justice System so they can learn important lessons.

This one that will go down in their memories as “Not Good”.


2 posted on 07/22/2011 8:51:48 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Navy Patriot

Um, what was their private security firm doing patrolling bad neighborhoods???


3 posted on 07/22/2011 8:55:25 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Vendome
Explorers are given the opportunity to participate in Law Enforcement and the Justice System so they can learn important lessons.

Not just law enforcement. My daughter was an Explorer as part of her high school EMT class.

4 posted on 07/22/2011 8:59:22 AM PDT by magslinger (Zombies make up much of the Democrat's base.)
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To: thefactor
Explorers are given the opportunity to participate in Law Enforcement and the Justice System so they can learn important lessons.

Worked.

5 posted on 07/22/2011 8:59:58 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Vendome
This is a serious case of the young men being badly miss mentored.

They believed that they were working for the good guys, and got lead into illegal activity by the very officers they looked to for guidance.

Rules count, and the lesson taught is that it's OK for the "more equal than others" to break the rules, and when push comes to shove, do MUCH worse rule breaking.

A traffic stop in California with a gun would have ruined the kid's life, and being a cop striker, he might not have survived prison.

Life without parole is fine with me.

6 posted on 07/22/2011 9:04:05 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Navy Patriot

The article states “fed law prohibits people under 21 from...owning firearms”.

Really? Not.

Liberal disinformation.


7 posted on 07/22/2011 9:09:34 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Navy Patriot

Things have sure changed over my lifetime.

I bought my first shotgun from Sears Roebuck catalog (A J.C. Higgins pump) when I was 14, it came in the mail.


8 posted on 07/22/2011 9:10:00 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: thefactor
Um, what was their private security firm doing patrolling bad neighborhoods???

Bad business (for profit). These guys were too young and inexperienced to do a proper job safely for all concerned.

9 posted on 07/22/2011 9:10:12 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Manly Warrior
Correct, they conflate handguns and long guns.

The straw purchases were illegal.

10 posted on 07/22/2011 9:12:15 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Navy Patriot; All
Federal law prohibits people under 21 from buying or owning guns.

This is simply untrue. Federal law prohibits people under the age of 21 from buying handguns (not rifles or shotguns) from a federally licensed dealer. People under the age of 21 can legally possess handguns, but minors have restrictions on using them.

11 posted on 07/22/2011 9:12:29 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: thefactor

Protecting their drug ring, of course.


12 posted on 07/22/2011 9:15:04 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Navy Patriot

Richt you are, and it’s right here in good old Danville, with one of our sheriff’s deputies contractor cops indicted for illegal drug and gun stuff along with a “brother officer” from next door San Ramon. These guys were members of the Central Contra Costa County Drug Strike Force yet! Evidently they were selling confiscated drugs and dealing with illegal assault weapons to boot. Look for the union label!


13 posted on 07/22/2011 9:15:43 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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I was guessing in post #12, but looks like it was a good guess.


14 posted on 07/22/2011 9:21:03 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Navy Patriot

I was a Sheriff Explorer for 4 years and I never saw such outrageous behavior. Not even a single incident I would question.

I was at all times mentored. The men and women took their responsibility toward us as an honor and acted accordingly.

Even prisoners I escorted were full of advice and for those moments I felt they were better men.


15 posted on 07/22/2011 9:24:35 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Venturer
I bought my first shotgun from Sears Roebuck catalog (A J.C. Higgins pump) when I was 14, it came in the mail.

When I was 13, my father introduced me to the local NRA life member/ firearms instructor/ kitchen table FFL dealer.

I had four evenings of instruction and one full Saturday written and physical test.

That summer, dad informed me that I would take his test that summer on our family camping trip. I got out all the notes I had made and re read them.

I passed a very thorough test, and as soon as we returned home, dad took me back to his friend and bought me my first shotgun. He said I could have anything I wanted, as long as it was a single shot model.

He said he had made me safe, now he was gonna make me a shooter.

16 posted on 07/22/2011 9:26:48 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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17 posted on 07/22/2011 9:33:07 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Vendome
This is not so much a problem with cops as it is a problem with the entire contemporary American society.

We, as a society, are deteriorating, and have a lack of accountability and responsibility.

Young people are managed to be remarkably ignorant and indoctrinated.

The only thing that I can see for sure is that this has happened before, and often enough to identify leftist liberal values as infecting a society before a collapse.

Human behavior really doesn't change much.

18 posted on 07/22/2011 9:41:20 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: vette6387
Yep, this group is a bunch of really bad guys in the shining ultra liberal, Marxist (that includes the police departments) SF Bay Area.
19 posted on 07/22/2011 9:52:41 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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I don’t believe that anymore than I believe we are more racist than ever before.

With so many venues for reporting news 24x7, papers, alternative papers, Internet, etc. many acts have become more visible and it feels more common.

Same as with Priests in the Catholic Church. I don’t have an axe to grind with the original church and very much respect them and their traditions.

However, what had been suppressed for so many years was made visible and brought to the forefront and finally dealt with as best as possible (I guess. I have my own punishment for them but I am not God).

The Church has gone through a reformation of sorts and is on a path of No Tolerance. To be sure they have a long way to go.

Same as abhorrent cops.

They have been around forever and I believe there were more criminals in LEO in the past than now.

The only area where I see society deteriorating is in the normalization and legislation of thought and behavior regarding homesexuality.

Now, I don’t care if one is gay but, they are a separate and distinct group of people who through their decision in our face and flaunt their lifestyle.

I don’t care for TMI or PDA in Heterosexuals and I appreciate even less in Gays. They only do it for attention anyway.

You wanna be gay? Fine just don’t become some protected group and try to change society and the definition of words.

And they are certainly welcome in my home anytime as friends (not my gay friend. I don’t pull that on my Mexican, Black, Polish, German, English friends. So let’s not come together with any other agenda than our stated purpose. =)


20 posted on 07/22/2011 10:21:00 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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