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Taking a stab at who the culprits might be.
Posted on 07/22/2011 7:07:25 AM PDT by markomalley
Windows blown out in PM's office
The only question is whether this will be enough to wake up the naive Scandinavians or if they’ll retreat to typical left-lib denial and see this as proof that they need to have more “dialogue” “outreach” “sensitivity” and “understanding” of cultural “differences”. :p
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Taking a stab at who the culprits might be.
NRK reporting that PM Stoltenberg was not in the building at the time of explosion.
“Told him he couldn’t bomb the PM building?” Why, oh, why must they be so inflexible? Couldn’t they have at least offered to let him bomb some lesser cabinet members’ offices? No wonder he was POd.
If I'm Norway, I set up a videocamera with a live feed, walk into the Muslim Cleric's cell, take out my .45, press it against his forehead, and blast his brains onto the wall.
Then I look into the camera, grin, and say "I'm coming for the rest of you, too."
So is it the Ansar-al-Islam cleric, or is this the first of Ghaddafi’s threatened strikes against NATO?
You’re assuming that winning in Afghanistan would end terrorism.
The reality is that the last war we decisively won was WWII and we won that because we utterly and totally defeated and demoralized the enemy where ever we found him. Defeating the Japanese in the Philippines and the Nazis in France would have left us still fighting them today.
Just wow. and yet OUR politicos call us names for wanting our government to protect our borders.
Again, it's political correctness, the genius of conquering a people with no army or weapons, just the simple act of causing them shame for pointing out the truth.
More pics at the link and info for anyone who speaks/reads Norwegian.
After 9-11 we went into Afghanistan but didn’t take it to them with full force. We are still fighting al-Qaeda after 10 years because our government devoted most our resources to Iraq instead. When you go to war, you give it your all, like the 6000+ of our finest.
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Sun-Tzu says the first attack is always a diversion.
Al-Queda is the diversion. they can’t accomplish anything permenent except terror.
Muslim Brotherhood and the Gulen movement, are 1000 times more dangerous.
THEIR plans WILL destroy us, if successful. and the M.B. plan we captured is already in stage 3...
(and the assistant to our US Sec of State has M.B. ties!)
ALREADY IN STAGE 3:
http://shariahthethreat.org/a-short-course-1-what-is-shariah/a-short-course-14-the-muslim-brotherhood%e2%80%99s-strategic-plan/
THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2740725/posts?page=4#4
It’s gotta be the Laplanders. They’ve been patiently waiting for 5,000 years, and figured it was time to attack.
Nice you have strong feelings on this issue. Unfortunately your feelings are wholly incorrect.
Why Iraq
One of the really infuriating things in modern politics is the level of disinformation, misinformation, demagoguery and out right lying going on about the mission in Iraq. Democrats have spent the last 3+ years lying about Iraq out of a political calculation. The assumption is that the natural isolationist mindset of the average American voter, linked to the inherent Anti Americanism (what is misnamed the “Anti War movement”) of the more feverish Democrat activists (especially those running the US’s National “News” media) would restore them to national political dominance. The truth is the Democrat Party Leadership has simply lacked the courage to speak truth to whiners. The truth is that even if Al Gore won the 2000 election and 09-11 still happened we would be doing the EXACT same things in Iraq we are doing now.
Based on the political situation in the region left over from the 1991 Gulf War plus the domestic political consensus built up in BOTH parties since 1991 as well as fundamental military strategic laws, there was NO viable strategic choice for the US but to take out Iraq after finishing the initial operations in Afghanistan.
To start with Saddam's Iraq was our most immediate threat. We could NOT commit significant military forces to another battle with Saddam hovering undefeated on our flank nor could we leave significant forces watching Saddam. The political containment of Iraq was breaking down. That what Oil for Food was all about. Oil for Food was an attempt by Iraq to break out of it's diplomatic isolation and slip the shackles the UN Sanctions put on it's military. There there was the US Strategic position to consider.
The War on Islamic Fascism is different sort of war. in facing this Asymmetrical threat, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone.
Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The “Holy” soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is mostly neutral in terms of guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).
Did any of the critics of liberating Iraq ever look at a map? Iraq, for which we had the political, legal and moral justifications to attack, is the strategic high ground of the Middle East. A Geographic barrier that severs ground communication between Iran and Syria apart as well as providing another front of attack in either state or into Saudi Arabia if needed.
There were other reasons to do Iraq but here is the strategic military reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.
Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. One has to wonder if the American people have either the emotional maturity, nor the intellect” to understand. It's so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like “No Blood for Oil” or “We support the Troops, bring them home” or dumbest of all “We are creating terrorists” then to actually THINK.
Westerners in general, and the US citizens in particular seem to have trouble grasping the fundamental fact of this foe. These Islamic Fascists have NO desire to co-exist with them. The extremists see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. There is simply no way to coexist with people who completely believe their “god” will reward them for killing us.
So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest of the Jihadists realize we are serious. They same way killing enough Germans, Italians and Japanese eliminated the ideologies of Nazism, Fascism and Bushido.
Americans need to understand how Bin Laden and his ilk view us. In the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming “We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad” and recruit the next round of “holy warriors”. Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11-01 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it -
If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
Winston Churchill
FIFY
“NRK reporting that PM Stoltenberg was not in the building at the time of explosion.”
See. That proves they had pieceful intentions. They waited ‘til he was out, so they could present their demands to him later. No doubt, they are perfectly reasonable demands, too. I do hope the PM will see reason now.
You’re assuming that winning in Afghanistan would end terrorism.
The reality is that the last war we decisively won was WWII and we won that because we utterly and totally defeated and demoralized the enemy where ever we found him. Defeating the Japanese in the Philippines and the Nazis in France would have left us still fighting them today.
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you, and Ann Coulter, understand this better than our entire State Department, and half the Pentagon.
Yeah.
I am switching between NRK and TV2. No idea where Swedish Radio got their info from.
TV2 locales in Oslo now being evacuated.
The overwhelmingly Muslim Third World colonists who are taking over with the help of liberals don’t just commit most of the rapes in Oslo — they commit all of them:
What are the odds of a bomber being Muslim?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_rHFKRwv5Y&feature=player_embedded
The PMs office is a stone’s throw from Grønland, Oslo’s Muslim ghetto.
Is Oslo in Sweden or Norway? I wonder which country the TIPH patrol in Hebron is from, too.
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