Ah, I didn't know that CCW license holders are required to offer that info immediately upon being stopped. ...even if they're not asked.
All I’ve ever heard is that it’s ALWAYS a good idea to tell them right away — that way there are no mistakes made, and no-one gets hurt... NOT telling the officer you are armed is a really easy way to get your head blown off. Especially if they’re asking you to exit your vehicle.
I’m guessing the police officer was more embarrassed than anything — he was completely unaware that the guy had a gun, and were it not a law-abiding citizen... well, in his head he’s probably thinking that he might not have gotten to go home ever again. That’s probably why he got so upset — more at himself, and probably at the driver, too because I don’t think cops WANT to shoot anyone unless they have to.
It’s kind of like the times when you have the right of way as a pedestrian, but the car turning isn’t going to stop — you have the right of way, but is it really worth risking your life to prove it?
Please note — I don’t personally have a CCW permit, so I don’t know all the laws that apply to it. Just seems to be common sense to me.
I should have added that the officer was way out of line in regards to how he handled the situation (obviously). Let’s all pray it’s a suspension that turns into a termination...
Never assume the police know or understand the law, 98% don't.
He also tried to ask me a ton of questions and my only reply was "am I required
by law to answer your questions?". Yea, that pissed him off.
According to my CHL instructor, in Texas, when pulled over, we're supposed to roll down the window, and stay in the vehicle with both hands in plain sight on the steering wheel. When the officer walks up, we announce our name, tell the officer we are licensed to carry a concealed weapon, and state whether or not we are packing.
It's also my understanding that the computer readout in most police cars in Texas will tell if the vehicle's owner is a CHL holder.
We used to be required to inform police without being asked,if stopped, but no longer ,here in Texas,anyway. Only if they ask, now
In Ohio your specifically required to notify immediately and as early as possible. They just passed a law within the last 30 days to modify this as it was overly broad and vague, but it doesn’t go into effect until something like January. This incident was about the time they were voting on it.
He attempted to tell the officer very early in the incident but was told to shutup before he could say anything. You can here him start the sentence and the response the first time they talk to him before talking with the “lady”. They also fail to listen to him as to why he is there (just off night shift cleaning duty) or how he knows her from when he was a taxi driver.
There are also threats toward the end about targeting him going forward anytime they see him in the area as retribution for his “lack of communication”.
According to the video, the cops were traveling blacked out which I assume means without headlights on and blew through at least one stop sign without stopping or slowing down. Laws apply to “them” not “us” mentality is readily apparent in the video.
In some states it's the law. Funny, here in the Peoples Republic of Ct. it's not.
Yes they are. Some of my friends who have Texas CHL licenses tell me that they carry their CHL card right behind their drivers license in case they are stopped, because they must show their CHL and drivers license. Texas links the CHL to the drivers license in the database, so if a CHL holder is stopped by the police and he doesn't also show the CHL immediately, he is in serious trouble.
Depends on the state.
Michigan - yes.
Indiana - know.
Know the laws or the cops will screw you over, as this video demonstrates.
In Nevada, you are required to present your ccw any time a LEO asks for ID. Even if you are not carrying at that moment.
Yeah, it’ true. That’s the first thing you do when stopped by a cop in Ohio. But from what I understand, every time he tried the cop told him to shut up.
Yes, when stopped by a cop, instant notification is required. If stopped by the highway patrol, then run a license check before even approaching a vehicle. When I am stopped, which happens all too frequently, I put the window down, turn off my car, and put both hands on the steering wheel. When I have told the various leos that i have a ccp, they practically shrug their shoulders.
I believe the driver in this instance, to be wrong by not being more authoritive in informing the leos. NOT DEFENDING THE COP’S ACTIONS WHATSOEVER.
Took my CCW class in Utah. The police officers that gave the class repeatedly said to let the officer who has pulled you over, or whatever, you let them know you have a CCW and you are armed or have a gun in the vehicle. BTW, the Police Officers who gave the class were exceptionally friendly, knowledged and answered all questions from the class.
The weird thing about this stop is that the cop didn't approach the driver for 7 minutes, and from what I could understand from the tape, the driver handed him his CCW as soon as he was at the window.
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