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1 posted on 07/22/2011 1:14:27 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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I certainly can’t excuse the officer’s conduct, but for background purposes, did something happen in either Ohio or the officer’s personal life that had him so on edge?


2 posted on 07/22/2011 1:33:59 AM PDT by Jonty30
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William was charged with two misdemeanor counts; one for stopping in the roadway, and another for failing to inform officers of his weapons...."You are supposed to say that right off the goddamned bat!"

Ah, I didn't know that CCW license holders are required to offer that info immediately upon being stopped. ...even if they're not asked.

3 posted on 07/22/2011 1:37:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Standard police intimidation factor.

I have to wonder how many folks would volunteer to be servants of the people if they were unarmed? The cops, not the people.


6 posted on 07/22/2011 1:51:22 AM PDT by wita
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6:53 Officer: “Why do you keep having that?”

The officer seems to mean the concealed carry permit that the driver has been offering up all along.

8:45 Officer: “It’s how f***ing cops get killed!”

Nonsense. People who fill out the forms, satisfy the requirements, and work through the process to get carry permits do not murder police officers. Traffic stops are dangerous for police, but concealed carry permits are not.

Incidentally, in some jurisdictions one is required to I.D. one’s self to peace officers upon demand, but beyond that experts recommend calmly and politely declining to answer questions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmrbNLt7Om8


12 posted on 07/22/2011 2:09:34 AM PDT by BladeBryan
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bump


13 posted on 07/22/2011 2:11:28 AM PDT by Ghengis
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This idiot cop needs to be terminated pronto.


20 posted on 07/22/2011 2:38:10 AM PDT by Silver Sabre
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Looks like traffic stops in Ohio are life threatening for CCW citizens.


21 posted on 07/22/2011 2:47:37 AM PDT by moshiach
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I have a slow internet connection, so I won’t be looking at the video.

what exactly is the crime of
‘stopping on the roadway’?


22 posted on 07/22/2011 2:49:22 AM PDT by 50gunsalute
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The helping the hooker story aside....which is a bullshit telltale out of the gate.

This cop based on what we see an hear in this video needs his certifications an commission pulled. Name an social added to a national database to ensure he never works in or near law enforcement again an fired with prejudice as well as sued back to the ice age in civil court.

This so called cop has some issues... then threatening to harass the guy an have his car towed every time he sees him from now on !

Bad cop....your fired an exhibit a against your department an the city for letting your psycho ass have a badge....

Video an sound is on....duh !

Gheeesh ...


23 posted on 07/22/2011 2:53:25 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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Best plan is probably to have an in-car hidden camera always recording when you are in the car, with a 16GB chip that it just keeps cycling over.

If more like this are caught, they’ll stop. And these cases need more publicity, like newspaper publicity. Same way you decrease any crime. Show them their likely to be caught.

There are a few candidates on Amazon, but they probably don’t do exactly what I want. Does anyone know of a good one?


32 posted on 07/22/2011 3:14:19 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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This ol boy answers one of my questions

Profanity: How small minds try to speak with strength?

34 posted on 07/22/2011 3:23:22 AM PDT by don-o (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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That’s a cop who needs immediate termination. Because he’s a LEO doesn’t give him the right to threaten to kill someone. In my years of LE I never, not once, spoke to someone or heard a fellow officer speak to anyone in the manner portrayed in this video. We never threatened to cap someone and if we did we would have been in front of the IA in the Chief’s office handing in our badge and service weapon the next day.


37 posted on 07/22/2011 3:29:54 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot (Islam wants you dead.)
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The officer's statements couldn't frame more accurately a growing public perception of police. Which is unfortunate.

One of the major aspects of that perception is that the police have a license to kill. And when they do the presumption of police officials, prosecutors, judges, and politicians is that they were justified and it takes extreme evidence that must be public before anything is done. And then the actions taken for wrongful killing are inappropriate like mere suspension or at the most dismissal.

Given that capital punishment is so limited by the States, why is extrajudicial, and summary, execution countenanced by the States? Not to mention the citizenry? Because that is just what so much of police violence against citizens is, what happened in Arizona for example. Another troubling aspect of the growing perception is the evident brutality and deadened conscience as shown in this case.

40 posted on 07/22/2011 3:32:47 AM PDT by hfr (For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. Rom 10.4)
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later


46 posted on 07/22/2011 3:37:00 AM PDT by digger48
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So the officer is suspended but the charges still stand? Why?


63 posted on 07/22/2011 4:11:52 AM PDT by doodad
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Procedure ... when you are pulled over and asked for a license, you hand them BOTH ... your driver’s license and your gun “license”. I keep them back to back in my billfold so when I pull one, I pull both. Hand them both to the cop. I’ve done it often in Savannah (I have FL permit because I live in SC! ???). Lots of “roadblocks” there for different reasons. I’ve NEVER been asked if I was carrying the gun ... the cops just look at both and hand them back and off I go. NOT to do this is asking for trouble.


71 posted on 07/22/2011 4:35:24 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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One of these days, I will probably get arrested in a prostitution sting, because I will stop to see if a woman needs a ride, or not run away when a woman walks over to talk to me in a Home Depot parking lot.

I'm not a naive dolt, but I rarely identify a woman as a prostitute just because she is by herself, and you don't know that a woman is a drug addled prostitute when you see her getting beat up. And should that really matter?

I wish the state still had a burden of proof.

As for this bad cop scenario, it needs to be a felony to abuse your authority like this. Firing this guy (like that is going to happen) isn't enough. Barring real punishment, a blanket party is in order. Handcuffed to his cruiser with his pants down would be fitting retribution.

82 posted on 07/22/2011 5:11:43 AM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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This crap will continue until somewhere an honest prosecutor charges criminal officers with multiple felonies.

The victim here should bring civil suit for violations of his civil rights. This “peace officer” and his employer should be paying big bucks.

85 posted on 07/22/2011 5:17:14 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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I’ll bet THAT video never makes it for broadcast on “COPS.”

That cop seems like the type we’re hearing more about.. that storms into private residences, shoots the pets, tasers the parents and threatens the children.

That a**hole should NEVER don a cop uniform again.


96 posted on 07/22/2011 5:48:28 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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The best reason a LEO should not have his job is the fact he wants it.


98 posted on 07/22/2011 5:51:44 AM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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