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To: Zakeet

In my state the elederly can NEVER have their property taxes raise EVER... they are fixed at whatever they were when they turned 65. Quirks like this for certain “special” groups are contributing greatly to the problem.

This is the kind of nonsense that needs to end. Why should the elderly only a fraction of what everyone else is paying in property taxes?


6 posted on 07/21/2011 7:01:26 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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because those over 65 have a limited range of options to earn money and may not have money saved away. yes, yes, I know there are many who spent all their money on fun when they had it, but they have limited options now. I’m not advocating all the special interest advantages for them, not even most, I’m just saying they have disadvantages a 33 year old doesn’t...


8 posted on 07/21/2011 7:05:17 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

because when taxes inexorably go up, elderly people (over 65) can’t go out and get a better job or a second job to pay them

It’s a humane social policy that keeps a lot of seniors in their own homes instead of evicting them. Not “nonsense”

Besides, what is the “fair share” of someone age 65 and above? in my experience a major thing that drives up property taxes is muppies demanding new schools, more teachers, more parks, public rec centers.

You want em, you pay for em. Once you retire, your civic obligation to OPK (other people’s kids) is not eliminated, but is reduced. You have paid property taxes for 40 years or more.

Given this economy, the retort to seniors “then sell your house an move if you can’t afford the taxes” has become almost unfeasible in the past several years. What is the house worth? Who is buying? Where do seniors go if their kids and grandkids are close by and they cant afford to live here?? Rents are as high or higher than house expenses.
Like it or not, human body parts do start to fail when you hit 65. Is this the future?


14 posted on 07/21/2011 7:20:50 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Why should the elderly only a fraction of what everyone else is paying in property taxes?
Someday - if you're lucky enough to live that long - you'll realize the stupidity of that question.
17 posted on 07/21/2011 7:26:09 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

So do you agree with a city being able to raise property taxes to the point where they force a retiree out of thier home? This came close to happening in Indiana, the property taxes were growing so fast that even those that had planned well for retirement were being forced to sell due to not being able to affored the increases. Thankfully Indiana fixed the problem.

As a conservative, I think property taxes are unconstitutional due to you never truely own your property. The government demands you to pay every year or else they take it from you.


20 posted on 07/21/2011 7:27:41 AM PDT by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Property taxes are nothing but government theft. If you own the property why should you have to pay the goverment just to live there, your are nothing but a serf.


25 posted on 07/21/2011 7:42:24 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Why should the elderly only a fraction of what everyone else is paying in property taxes?

Because the state doesn't want a bunch of old people taxed out of their homes because their earning power has stopped.

Just be patient, you'll get old one day too.

28 posted on 07/21/2011 7:58:52 AM PDT by Texan
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First of all high property taxes are immoral period. Second if you are going to have property taxes then the taxes should be based on what you paid for the property, NOT assess value. Third you should pay for you own kids education I am tired of being forced to pay idiots to not educate your kids in expensive palaces.
33 posted on 07/21/2011 8:18:14 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“In my state the elederly can NEVER have their property taxes raise EVER... they are fixed at whatever they were when they turned 65. Quirks like this for certain “special” groups are contributing greatly to the problem.
This is the kind of nonsense that needs to end. Why should the elderly only a fraction of what everyone else is paying in property taxes?”

OK, I’ll bite.

On the one hand, we want retirees to accept a lower level of income. They are probably going to HAVE TO accept a lower level of income. This includes ordinary (non-public-employee) retirees (who live on Social Security, perhaps with a little savings) as well.

All well and good.

But then, you expect these same people — whose income is being reduced — to pay MORE each year in property taxes?

Let me ask a simple (and admittedly stupid question) - and I’m going to say quite frankly that I don’t expect a direct answer from you in return:

Where do you suggest these older folks (many who are past being able to work again) to get the money?

Just askin’...


47 posted on 07/21/2011 8:44:12 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

In CA, before Prop 13, folks young and old were being taxed out of their homes.

There comes a point where a person’s income just can’t keep up with the demands (taxes) of local governments.

Prop 13 helped fix this by placing a very strict limit on how much the property taxes can go up each year. Trust me, they go up every year.

Don’t misunderstand, I’m no proponent of gov’t thievery (taxes), but they’re not going away anytime soon.

Those that are placing the most demand on the “services” of a particular area, should be paying the most.

Seniors have already paid their part, IMO, they are due for a reduction.


70 posted on 07/21/2011 2:00:04 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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