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Man Stomped On Train "Because I'm White"
WPIX-TV ^ | July 18, 2011 | Mary Murphy

Posted on 07/19/2011 8:15:49 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BRONX, NY (PIX11)— "I asked them to lower their voices and then they started in on me, 'Shut the f--- up, white boy. We'll beat the s--t out of you, cracker.'"

Jason Fordell, 29, of the Bronx, said that was the first exchange he had with three black men and a Hispanic man on the #4 subway train near Grand Central early Sunday morning, and by the time the train got to Fordham Road, Fordell says he was being beaten and stomped by other passengers who were egging the original group on. "Eventually, half the car" joined in, Fordell told PIX 11 Monday, showing us his badly bruised left eye. Most of the suspects got away, after stealing his bags and money, and Fordell said the incident should have been treated as a hate crime.

Fordell told us he had been selling leather, Goth-style clothing he designs at an East Village club, before heading home about 5am Sunday morning. He was tattooed and dressed in black, Goth attire--to help market his products--when he transferred to the #4 train at 42nd Street. That's when he asked the group to quiet down.

The argument escalated as the train headed north, Fordell said. "They started saying racist things like white boy this, white boy that.". Fordell said he was getting angry when the Hispanic man joined the taunting, "They're calling me cracker, and so I called him s--c."PIX 11 asked, "So you used a slur?--If you're using racial slurs, why should police call it a hate crime?" Fordell's response: "because they're the ones who started with me."

Fordell told us he's blind in the left eye, so the eye turns in, and the group started taunting him about that. He said he called 9-1-1 and suggested police meet the train at Burnside Avenue. He then lost the 9-1-1 call. Before he reached Fordham Road, Fordell told PIX 11 the beating began, "A bunch of people started stomping on me, and I had footprints on my back."

Fordell said two guys from the original group stole his bags, so he chased them down to the Metrocard booth at Fordham Road. The fight continued. When cops arrived, he pointed out a straphanger that he said had joined in the beating. "I recognized him, because he had an Army hat on.". Police arrested 54-year-old Barminth Ramoutar of Queens, who had no prior criminal record. Ramoutar is being charged with felony gang assault. The original group got away.

Fordell insists the beating was a race thing. "If I was dressed 'hip hop' and I was darker, I don't think it would have happened in the first place."

When we called the NYPD to ask why the incident wasn't deemed a hate crime, a spokesman said detectives had to evaluate a number of things. "Was race the motivating factor in the assault? Our Hate Crime Task Force was not investigating it as a bias incident."

Fordell said the Goth accessories that were stolen were worth between five and ten thousand dollars. He said he started designing because "the economy is so messed up, and I kept trying to find work. I don't want to be on unemployment like everyone else. I manage to pay my rent."

When PIX 11 happened to meet another Goth fan at the Forham Road station on Monday, he sympathized with Fordell but said he shouldn't have complained about the noise. "He should have just switched cars," said Joey Martinez.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: beating; blackkk; bronx; florida; georgezimmerman; manhattan; newyork; newyorkcity; racism; subway; trayvonmartin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

HOLDER’S PEOPLE.


21 posted on 07/19/2011 8:39:10 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It could have been even worse if he was wearing a Palin 2012 button. NYC, was never like this in the 50’s. You could ride from Brighton Beach Brooklyn to Van Courtland Park and never have any kind of an incedent. We the American People brought this down upon ourselves since the end of the 60’s. Keep up the good work! s/


22 posted on 07/19/2011 8:41:06 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fight with smear, Conservatives fight with truth. Palin & West team are 2012's dream)
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To: xtinct
Rule #3 NEVER stare at anyone... END

Rule #4: Carry a revolver that cannot be traced to you. If you have to shoot, do it. Drop the gun and walk away after emptying it.

23 posted on 07/19/2011 8:41:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

He may not have the best judgment, but at least he’s enterprising and motivated. I like that he said he was designing Goth accessories because he wanted to be able to pay his rent and not be on unemployment.


24 posted on 07/19/2011 8:41:26 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Fee

” they tend to be liberal and cannot mind their own business. Unfortunately they are slowly learning that their nanny tendencies are running into black/hispanic inner city intolerance of anyone trying to tell them what to do or not to do especially from whites. “

Hey - I’m a smoker — being accosted and harangued in public places by absolute strangers is not a new experience....


25 posted on 07/19/2011 8:42:16 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: beekay
Can’t be long now before Eric Holder files a civil rights violation law suit against Jason Fordell.
26 posted on 07/19/2011 8:45:05 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Tax-chick

Godzilla doesn't care what color you are!..............

27 posted on 07/19/2011 8:45:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Tax-chick

I've never used being white as an excuse to stomp the yard, either.

28 posted on 07/19/2011 8:46:01 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I have a LTCF, and where it’s not legal, I don’t go. Period.


29 posted on 07/19/2011 8:46:01 AM PDT by domeika
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To: CitizenM

If always applies to something that didn’t happen.


30 posted on 07/19/2011 8:49:29 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What is a “straphanger”?


31 posted on 07/19/2011 8:49:57 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Reality. One way enforcement of “hate crime” laws will not decrease hate but will increase it. It was the perception of blacks getting preferential treatment by law enforcement during reconstruction that gave birth to the KKK. Our justice system needs to tread lightly here. It does not have to be real injustice. A general perception that the system is unjust will result in vigilantism. A really bad by-product is that innocent people get hurt in the overall increase in violence.


32 posted on 07/19/2011 8:51:00 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Where is Mayor Tinkerbell, shouldn’t he be having a press conference or something, seem he has time to stick his nose into everything else...must be busy with trasfats and salt legislation...that will make NYC safe...


33 posted on 07/19/2011 8:53:18 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: NEMDF

Anyone who rides the subway. Years ago they actually had straps attached to the over head pole to hand onto when all the seats were taken (rush hour).


34 posted on 07/19/2011 8:53:56 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: LibsRJerks
Now a good majority of them want nothing but to take away the rights of others to live in a civil society, the greatest racists being themselves.

My greatest contempt and anger is toward their manipulators, the white liberal "plantation Masters." The "Masters" have used them as a foil to destroy our former civil society in order to build their world socialist "utopia." From LBJ onward they have systematically been at work dismantling the foundations of American society.

I also have endless contempt for the voters who have been brainless enough to elevate these tribal despots into positions of power sufficient to destroy America. Obama is a self-inflicted disaster.

35 posted on 07/19/2011 8:55:46 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: domeika
I have a LTCF, and where it’s not legal, I don’t go. Period

It's legal everywhere in the US, our Constitution says so. Those laws making it "not legal" are themselves not legal.

But until some of the Commies making and enforcing those unconstitutional laws get some hard time for violating our civil right it will continue.

36 posted on 07/19/2011 8:56:23 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ASA Vet

37 posted on 07/19/2011 8:56:34 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Bringbackthedraft

60’s too, I use to ride all over alone, to Flushing and down to Canal. I am thinking of a New England cruise out of NJ and would like to revisit some old haunts, but getting there on public transits worries me.


38 posted on 07/19/2011 8:59:30 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

He should have given them each five dollars.


39 posted on 07/19/2011 9:02:56 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: stuartcr

“I asked them to lower their voices,,,”

There it is. The racist pig asked for it. sarc/


40 posted on 07/19/2011 9:07:55 AM PDT by chessplayer
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