Herman Cain: Communities have right to ban mosques

ap ^ | Jul 17, 2011 | BRUCE SCHREINER

[george76]

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Sunday that communities have a right to ban Islamic mosques.

Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," the former Godfather's Pizza CEO said protests and legal challenges to a planned mosque in Tennessee city are an example of local residents pushing back.

Cain said his view doesn't amount to religious discrimination because he says Muslims are trying to inject Shariah law into the U.S.

[o2bfree]

He never used the word “ban” in the interview.

The communists are putting words in Herman’s mouth.

[wolfman23601]

I generally like Cain, but he is wrong on this one. The constitution is clear.

[wolfman23601]

Have you read the 14th amendment?

[Renata Maree]

Herman really doesn’t seem to be afraid to tell it like it is.

[impimp]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights

Yes I have - although I am not that skilled at legal issues. The link above sort of outlines how the 14th amendment was not originally thought to apply to all/many rights. The US Supreme Court sort of rethought some things decades after the 14th amendment was passed. They incorporated these rights, in some cases about a century after the 14th was passed.

[numberonepal]

If NAMBLA was building a headquarters in my little town they would be made to feel so uncomfortable that they would want to leave.

Exactly! The solution isn't violence or government. The answer is to ostracize. If the community refuses to associate with the 7th Century savages, they'll eventually get the message and leave. Don't pick up their garbage or don't sell them groceries. Is your car or air conditioner in need of repair - "we won't help".

[He Rides A White Horse]

"Each time you have someone who is regarded as a mainstream political leader expressing these kind of hate-filled views, it just fans the flames of anti-Muslim bigotry nationwide," he said. "And it gives legitimacy to intolerance and hatred. And he, of all people, should realize this, being African-American.

This is what gives legitimacy to intolerance and hatred. No nation should tolerate this.

They wrote the opening chapter, and we will finish the rest of the book.

[PGalt]

HOORAY Herman Cain! Mosque/barracks/base camp ALERT!

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.

Fislam

[He Rides A White Horse]

Islam is at war with us. You don’t let the enemy sleep in your house.

[Salvavida]

I don't think President Adams would hold your point of view; and neither do many here. Common sense tells us the U.S. Constitution never intended a religion hostile to our existance is on equal terms:

John Quincy Adams on Islam:

"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, [.....] Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST.- TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.... Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant ... While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men."

Just sayin.

[oblomov]

The Pentateuch offers a lengthy justification for the legitimacy of the rule of David and the other kings of Judea and Israel. And there are Christians, on both the right and left, who would argue that Jesus did advocate a particular economic and political system.

[Brett11]

I agree. I support private property rights and the 1st amendment. If people want to stop a mosque from being built, they can protest and try to apply public pressure to convince the builders to build in a different location.

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[He Rides A White Horse]

Islam isn’t just a religion - it is many other things as well: political movement, terrorist organization, supporter of terrorists, quasi-military organization, legal system, economic system, etc., etc.

Not mention its ultimate goal; submit or die.

I can't believe some of the things I'm hearing. 9-11, 2001 it was "we will never forget", "never again"...

Seven years down the road, A Muslim Marxist is our president.

This is an organized religion whose adherents actively support the destruction of America, The Great Satan.

They are not the victims. The real victims are scattered all across the globe, victims of Islam's never-ending war against those who refuse to submit. Only the left would attempt to spin this reality to the unbelievable conclusion that Muslims are persecuted and treated unfairly.

[He Rides A White Horse]

And there are Christians, on both the right and left, who would argue that Jesus did advocate a particular economic and political system.

I seem to remember Christ affirming that His Kingdom was not of this world.

[He Rides A White Horse]

And there are Christians, on both the right and left

...do tell me about these two particular 'sects'.

[Georgia Girl 2]

They are trying to build one here in Lilburn, GA. We don’t want it and the City Council has turned it down so they are going to court to try to force it. This is going to be a big problem nationwide and if we don’t nip it in the bud we are going to be like London with these things on every corner blaring out the call to prayers 5 times a day.

[Rembrandt]

There is a mosque being built, nearly completed, in my mid-sized Florida town (Sarasota). I bet there’s an existing mosque or one being built in just about every mid-sized or larger town in America.

The A-rabs know that they can beat us by infiltrating from within:

Establish a local base, bring in a minister of hate and breed like rabbits. Just re-applying their methods from Belgium, Britain, Germany, Spain, etc.

[SubMareener]

The problem is that Islam is a religion and a political system. There is no separation of Mosque and State in fundamental Islam. So a Mosque of people who are “Muslim” but don't believe in Sharia Law, and don't advocate the violent overthrow of the United States Constitution would be covered under the First Amendment. However, Herman Cain says he has talked to the local people, and these are not that kind of Muslims.

[SubMareener]

The problem is that Islam is a religion and a political system. There is no separation of Mosque and State in fundamental Islam. So a Mosque of people who are “Muslim” but don't believe in Sharia Law, and don't advocate the violent overthrow of the United States Constitution would be covered under the First Amendment. However, Herman Cain says he has talked to the local people, and these are not that kind of Muslims.