Posted on 07/17/2011 11:09:54 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
>>To malign Sarah Palin based on an attempted characterization of her supporters is an Alinsky tactic<<
IOW, “We can yell EVEN LOUDER and use EVEN MORE INSULTS!”
I did not malign Gov. Palin through her supporters. I suggest that those supporters should keep in mind they are her Ambassadors.
Unless the “whether you would support” is hurtful and maligning. I keep forgetting the thin skin issue...
>>There’s a difference between merely pointing out your opinion that The Undefeated will not be the success we believe it will and hoping it won’t succeed.<<
And I said “I hope it will not succeed” exactly in which post? Please provide exact post and link thereto. Keep in mind that pointing out the simple arithmeic in the OP may not support the underlying OPs conclusion <> “not wanting to succeed.” I would really appreciate it if you didn’t make me provide a logic lesson — it is painful. I repeat: in what post did I say I hope the movie does not succeed?
>>How do the Roves, Krauthammers, Soroses and their followers feel about the fact that Palin’s “flaws” they had hoped for two years ago have turned out to be nonexistent while her successes have skyrocketed?. Why do you run from acknowledging this fact, and doesn’t it represent a level of success rendering your arguments completely meaningless?<<
You leave me in a quandary. For this one, I choose to request you to substantiate and quantify “successes have skyrocketed.” I will hold “the ‘fact’ flaws proof and ‘my arguments’ substantiation in abeyance.
>>That’s not something good. See Luke 11:17 and Luke 11:23.<<
I gather you don’t understand the importance of the role of the Devil’s Advocate in the RCC.
>> I see a few are already denying the implications of the blowout limited run.<<
If it makes you feel good to come to that conclusion, I won’t even begin to suggest otherwise. It is the implications of that which are at the core of the discussion.
>>I’ve said before, that if I were moderating this place, I’d have a word or two with the type of posters we call PDSers<<
If you were moderating this place, it would have 12 active members.
>>I modded at a conservative forum five years back, and that was our policy.<<
And, I infer, it no longer exists. That is what good mods do — destroy all bad thinking.
You and your ilk have yet to show where I have said anything bad against Gov. Palin. To suggest some intellectual analysis might be a good thing is met with not just anger, but rage. White hot rage.
fascinating.
Sarah's evagelical, with Pentecostal leanings.
Cheers!
>>Sarah’s evagelical, with Pentecostal leanings.<<
Not my point, but good to know...
Cheers to you as well!
First of all, I wasn't even talking to you, but seeing how you want to label me as some sort of group-think nazi, I'll try (once again) to describe what my beef is.
I have nothing against honest disagreement or rational discussion about issues, candidates for office, etc.
What I have a problem with, is screaming monkeys who do little more than throw their poop at passersby, or smear it all over the walls.
It's my contention that the latter have forfeited their privileges to interact with civil adults on this (or any other) forum, and should get the zot.
Those who disagree with my views have every right to argue their position until the cows come home, and if they win the day with superior facts, logic, or reason - so be it. That's what a discussion forum is for.
On the other hand, people who endlessly repeat the same ad hominem attack points, or who can't stop themselves from posting snarling, nasty, juvenile vitriol (in lieu of actual conversation), have not earned a place at the table.
If I was holding the zot gun, those types would be gone.
>>If I was holding the zot gun, those types would be gone.<<
I’ll ping you to them, I promise.
It’s not a presumed “logic lesson.” If it were a lesson, it would be a lesson in empiricism, which is very distinct from logic. In any case, I’m convinced you hope it will not succeed.
Palin is “unprepared” and “dumb.” This is what they started out saying. At this point, it’s simply “she can’t win.”
But the lesson in logic here (not painful, though) is that a person who comes up sometimes in first place and sometimes in second (the only unannounced candidate among the rest who have officially declared their candidacy) is easily positioned, logically speaking, to win in a race that doesn’t end for more than a year.
How about not being one of them instead? Anyone with eyes can and has seen that.
Devil’s Advocate. HA! LMFAO! Please, entertain us more.
>>It’s not a presumed “logic lesson.” If it were a lesson, it would be a lesson in empiricism, which is very distinct from logic. In any case, I’m convinced you hope it will not succeed.<<
That is not what you said. You said I SAID I hoped it wold not succeed. Find the post where I said that or admit you lied. Again.
>>Palin is “unprepared” and “dumb.” This is what they started out saying. At this point, it’s simply “she can’t win.”
Post the link to the post where I siad that. Or admit you lied. Again.
>>But the lesson in logic here (not painful, though) is that a person who comes up sometimes in first place and sometimes in second (the only unannounced candidate among the rest who have officially declared their candidacy) is easily positioned, logically speaking, to win in a race that doesn’t end for more than a year.<<
You don’t have any background in logic nor communications forensics do you?
Your statement is a complete non sequiter.
Now you are in the unenviable position of admitting you are a liar (or post the links and posts to support your original posts) AND uneducated.
You should have quite while you were behind.
>>How about not being one of them instead? Anyone with eyes can and has seen that<<
And yet, you have nothing of substance. Just “bwahahahaha.”
Show me ONE post where I have said anything against Gov. Plain. Not challenging her strategies nor tactics. Her.
LINKs please.
You are like a little yapping dog on a park lawn. All you can do is toss simpleminded ad-hominem and think you are clever.
You can’t post anything of substance, you can’t answer my simplest challenge. You just say “buahahahha”
We have a term for people who can’t argue their positions logically and just dissemble into logical fallacies in the presence of arguments: liberals.
Don’t bother responding unless and until you can show an entire post of mine IN CONTEXT where I have ever aid anything bad about Gov. Palin.
(hint: if we don’t hear from you on this thread again it will speak volumes).
Post 33. This thread-you already tried this crap and were rebutted
“But even if you disagree with my conclusions and see it differently — I REPEAT MY CHALLENGE! Where did I insult “everyone” much less anyone (much less you. much less Gov. Palin) on that thread?”
You were told The following:
Your comment about ‘cult of personality’ is an insult to supporters of Governor Palin. If you knew any better, you’d be ashamed of yourself.
Where have I not been truthful?? WHERE???? If you cannot backup THAT post, your post knowingly does not match the truth.
You’re lying about using arithmetic.You’re lying about being ‘attacked’. You’re lying about the reason anyone might have to ‘attack’ you and you’re woefully misinformed about limited release movies. That’s just for starters.
I’m not running to anyone. I’m simply making Jim aware of your antics so that when you go too far (and you will), he’ll be well aware of your past history of trolling.
33 posted on Sunday, July 17, 2011 12:18:17 PM by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. — G.K. Chesterton)
So keep right on blathering. I didn’t even have to leave the thread to find an instance of your BS. If I did, I’d be posting for hours.
>>Your comment about ‘cult of personality’ is an insult to supporters of Governor Palin. If you knew any better, you’d be ashamed of yourself.<<
Are you kidding?
Really, are you kidding?
You use that to say I insulted Gov. Palin and you?
OK, if that is what it takes then I need say no more.
It isn’t an insult to Gov. Palin, it isn’t an insult to any particular person, it is a comment on the movie.
It isn’t a rebuttal, it is a shot in the dark in hopes the OP won’t get busted for an out lie. That you would try to piggyback on that is too wild for words.
But if it you need to grasp that thin (well, non-existent) tendril to support your total lack of any logical analyses I won’t laugh too much at your immaturity.
And your attempt to explain why you ran to daddy is so funny I don’t have to address it at all. Kids will be kids and how can I be mad when they come in with Oreo all over their face I can only laugh when they say the mean man made them eat them.
Just for the record: how old are you? Your posts suggest around 12, but I might grant you 15 if you make a strong case.
Undefeated still says 10 as Theater count: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?view=&yr=2011&wknd=28&p=.htm
Did something change? I was expecting some sort of movement over the weekend....
Or did I miss something?
And you didn’t actually answer any of my questions.
I am thinking 14 yo (they don’t do well in answering direct questions either).
Misdirect much? You aren’t too good at it.
Nah...I can’t see why being called a cultist would insult anyone. I can’t see why implying that Sarah Palin is a cult leader (can’t have a cult with out a leader...I see logic isn’t high on your list of positive traits) would be insulting.
Please keep digging your hole. There are a number of us laughing hysterically right now ;) This is just too funny. I’m so glad I ditched cable years ago. I have gotten so much entertainment from you and your kind that I saved more than if I’d switched to Geico!
BTW, I must have had my now 22 year old daughter when I was in the heavily negative years ;)
IOW you can’t answer my challenge.
No surprise.
And anyone on the Internet can claim anything they want, including a daughter.
I gauge your age based on your responses.
You can’t be direct. A post. An insult. Prove your statement.
Because you CAN’T.
Because it doesn’t exist.
Because all you have is silly 14-yo “so’s your mama” responses.
14 going on 13. The breaks we get from your posts is when your mommy makes you clean your room.
You’re just getting to know freedumb!
He’s been doing this crap from the beginning; I think Jim keeps him here for amusement, and to keep the hit count up.
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