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IDF to replace outdated howitzers after decades of service
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 07/17/2011 | YAAKOV KATZ

Posted on 07/17/2011 8:58:16 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

IDF to replace outdated howitzers after decades of service

By YAAKOV KATZ

17/07/2011

American M109 howitzers have undergone a series of upgrades since they debuted in the Yom Kippur War.

The IDF is looking to replace its aging M109 155 mm. self-propelled howitzers, after decades of service and participation in a number of wars.

Israel received the American M109 howitzers in the 1970s and they debuted in the Yom Kippur War.

They have since undergone a series of upgrades and today are fitted with air purification systems so crews can continue operating in the event of a chemical or biological attack, and have a range of just under 30 kilometers.

The howitzers are fitted with digital command-and-control systems that link the crews to the rest of the IDF’s ground forces and transmit their location as well as the positions of enemy forces.

The advancement in technology is part of the Artillery Corps’ way of adapting itself to maintain relevance on the modern battlefield.

During the Second Lebanon War in the summer of 2006, for example, the Artillery Corps fired 177,000 shells into Lebanon without having an affect on the rate of rocket attacks against northern Israel.

The decision to buy new cannons for the Artillery Corps is part of a larger plan to upgrade its offensive capabilities that includes the procurement of new precision rocket and missile systems.

The two frontrunners to replace the M109s are Soltam System’s Autonomous Truck Mounted Howitzer Systems and the Artillery Gun Module, developed by Germany’s Krauss-Maffei Wegmann.

Both systems are truck-mounted, meaning that they have high mobility and can move between different areas of operations quicker than the M109s.

They also have greater ranges of over 40 km., and possibly most crucial is the smaller crews that they require, down from 6 crew members in the M109 to just two or three.

A senior IDF officer said the smaller crew size would allow the Artillery Corps to transfer soldiers from its battalions to new units within the corps such as the Sky Rider Unit that operates unmanned aerial vehicles for the ground forces.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: artillery; geraldbull; howitzer; idf; israel

Soltam ATMOS

KMW AGM

1 posted on 07/17/2011 8:58:18 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It seems they need a model with 155 mm shell size but lesser range for destroying Gaza


2 posted on 07/17/2011 9:05:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: sukhoi-30mki
If the Jews are smart they should replace ALL of their US made weapons and munitions.
If a major war with the Muslims beaks out,that antisemitic Islamophile Obama will be sure to slap an embargo on replacemts,spare parts,and ammo to Israel.
Obama and his Muslim Brotherhood terrorist buddies aren't staging this “Arab Spring” surrounding of Israel with hostile Jew hating Jihadists seeking the final solution to the Jewish question delayed by American made ordnance.
3 posted on 07/17/2011 9:10:37 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Sans Sarah-Bachmann's The One.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki
the Artillery Corps fired 177,000 shells into Lebanon without having an affect on the rate of rocket attacks against northern Israel.

An indicator of incorrect ammo type.

The correct type

4 posted on 07/17/2011 9:20:50 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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Thanks sukhoi-30mki.
During the Second Lebanon War in the summer of 2006, for example, the Artillery Corps fired 177,000 shells into Lebanon without having an affect on the rate of rocket attacks against northern Israel.
That won't be as much of a problem in the next war in Lebanon, because the so-called nation of Lebanon has already been tipped to the fact that Israel will consider everyone in Lebanon a combatant.


5 posted on 07/17/2011 9:29:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Happy Rain
Interesting that Israel allegedly assassinated the world's leading artillery designer. A Canadian, he was making a super gun for Saddam, capable of hitting Israel.

He loved artillery, and did work (1960s) with NASA trying to work out a way to shoot satellites into orbit.

The Pentagon declined to purchase his howitzer and shell design, even though the combination had greater range and accuracy.

He got into trouble (1970s) selling his stuff to the then embargoed South Africa, and eventually ended up working for Saddam (1980s).

He was taken out in Brussels, iirc.

Now, they could use him...

6 posted on 07/17/2011 9:41:32 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: sukhoi-30mki

M109 self-propelled howitzer of the Egyptian Army

Seems only fair that the U.S. armed both the Egyptians and the Israelies with the same equipment.

7 posted on 07/17/2011 9:52:45 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: ASA Vet
Israel will need the new model before September. I hear that 9-11 is planned for all month this year to celebrate the 10th anniversary.
8 posted on 07/17/2011 10:36:29 AM PDT by mountainlion (AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.)
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To: ASA Vet
An indicator of incorrect ammo type.

Or incorrect target type, imagine what 177,000 155mm rounds could have done to alter the demographic trend that favors Hezbollah?
9 posted on 07/17/2011 11:21:26 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Pakistan delenda est)
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To: Calvin Locke
The Canadian designer, Dr. Gerald Bull, was working to design a “super gun” to bombard Israel from Iraq. Previously, Dr. Bull had used a modified 16” naval gun as a more economic way to launch vehicles like satellites into space as part of Project HARP. HARP was canceled and Bull, decided to go freelance his skills to the highest bidders.

South Africa hired him to improve their 155mm artillery and Israel would be wise to adopt the long range guns the South Africans use. These guns are truck mounted and have ranges over 40 km. Bull was contacted by the Iraqis through intermediaries and got hooked when he was told he could build his life's dream — the “super gun.” Word is that the Mossad assassinated him after warning him no less than three times not to pursue the project. The Israelis also leaked word to British customs who seized the last barrel sections that Saddam needed to complete his super gun.

10 posted on 07/17/2011 12:16:30 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Calvin Locke
Bull decided to help the Iraqis lob chemical weapons on Israel, Iran, etc. He was playing Russian roulette with bullets in the chamber named "Mossad", "CIA" "MI6", and "VEVAK".
11 posted on 07/17/2011 1:07:39 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Calvin Locke

His name was Gerald Vincent Bull March 9, 1928 – March 22, 1990 was a Canadian engineer who developed long-range artillery. He moved from project to project in his quest to economically launch a satellite using a huge artillery piece, to which end he designed the Project Babylon “supergun” for the Iraqi government. Bull was assassinated outside his apartment in Brussels, Belgium. He sold his evil wares to the highest bidder, too bad so sad, Gerald is now taking a very long dirt nap!


12 posted on 07/17/2011 9:16:40 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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