Posted on 07/17/2011 1:52:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Though as a "true disbeliever", I doubt that money is any incentive at all. The poster is a benighted, blinkered, irrational person.
I’m right there with you........on all counts! :-)
Thanks for the warning. I don’t think I’ve had many run-ins with that one before. Good thing, too. I might have wasted thousands of words, trying to talk sense into it.
That’s fine. Soon enough, Sarah will announce, and we can watch ‘em squirm.
If we want to get the economy going again we need to do the following:
1. Every government agency at the Federal, state and county level must be aggressively audited the following wasteful items:
a. Bureaucratic overlap--too many agencies are trying to do the same job when one agency should be doing it instead.
b. Agency bloat--too many agencies are just too big and need to be pruned back quite a bit.
c. Too many regulations--there are a lot of regulations that either are not worthy the expenditure to enforce the regulation or no longer needed due to changes since the law was first passed.
We need to use these audits to streamline government by as much as 30% immediately, with a goal of 50% or more in 4-5 years.
2. The current income tax system needs to be gutted right now because it has become an overly-complex mess that wastes resources (US$300 BILLION per year in compliance costs right now), drives millions of jobs, thousands of factories, hundreds of corporate headquarters, and maybe as much as US$14 TRILLION in American-owned liquid assets out of the country for income tax avoidance reasons, and is being overly-used as a means of political coercion. The Steve Forbes flat-rate income tax plan should be at minimum what our income tax system should be like, and we should seriously consider ending the income tax in favor of a national consumption tax like FairTax (H.R. 25/S. 13).
3. Wall Street needs to be reigned in, since it was the financial shenanigans of Wall Street that caused the mess in the first place. We need to impose the following:
a. Require all hedge funds, derivatives, and other new-style investments to be backed with real liquid assets or be banned as financially too risky.
b. Increase the minimum margin requirements for futures trading to 20%, and if you're trading in a tangible commodity must require 40% delivery of the product you trade in.
c. Break up the "too big to fail" investment banks by re-imposing the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act, which will also protect conventional bank assets from the ups and downs of the stock market.
d. Re-do the Sarbanes-Oxley Act to make it easier to do corporate initial public offerings (IPO's).
Given the history of what happened before the 1929 and 2008 crashes, like it or not Wall Street when it runs amok it cause tremendous financial harm, especially when the housing bubble crashed and took down Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and AIG all within six months. If we had the controls I mentioned in place it's likely none of these financial disasters would have happened.
If she accepts this agenda for REAL reform, she would win in the biggest landslide victory since 1980.
I don't think she would run, for the same reason, in many ways, that she would make a great President.
I think the is way too smart to run a race she cannot win. Remember, we conservatives do not elect Preisdents. Neither do the hard libs. The undecideds, the middle 16 to 19% of the voters who are not that interested in politics.
They would not vote for Palin because she has been so vilified in the media. Very wrongly, her name is a bad joke nationally. She is the Katherine Harris of 2012. In the FL Senate race in 2006, Harris was the world's worst candidate, but she could have been perfect and not elected because she had been so vilified.
This is Palin’s present position: She is making about $12 million a year in speeches, appearances, TV work, books, etc. If she runs, that stops. She is at home when she wants to be. She is in the limelight when she wants to be, out of it when she wants to be.
If she were to run and lose, even just lose the nomination, her earning power and political power would be greatly diminished. 2008 was “McCain's loss.” 2012 would be hers.
She has no personal NEED to be president. If she can help elect someone who will follow her policies, that is enough.
She hated the 2008 campaign. I had dinner with her last year, and although she would make no commitment to 2012, she hid no feelings about the elective process and the idiocy and pain a person has to go through to run.
Finally, right now, her endorsement is the most valuable thing (other than a big Iowa win) that any R candidate could ever want.
And remember the most important rule in politics, it's better to be the kingmaker than the king.
Right now, she is the relatively quiet 2012 kingmaker. If she chooses right, she is kingmaker in 16 and 20 as well. She is way too smart to give that up.
I wish she was president. I think she is too smart to run.
I'll answer your question, while avoiding the troll fools.
I don't think she would run, for the same reason, in many ways, that she would make a great President.
I think she is way too smart to run a race she cannot win. Remember, we conservatives do not elect Preisdents. Neither do the hard libs. The undecideds, the middle 16 to 19% of the voters who are not that interested in politics, they decide elections. Remember, in 1980, Reagan has less than 52% of the vote.
The middleground would not vote for Palin because she has been so vilified in the media. Very wrongly, her name is a bad joke nationally. She is the Katherine Harris of 2012. In the FL Senate race in 2006, Harris was the world's worst candidate, but she could have been perfect and not elected because she had been so vilified.
This is Palin’s present position: She is making about $12 million a year in speeches, appearances, TV work, books, etc. If she runs, that stops. She is at home when she wants to be. She is in the limelight when she wants to be, out of it when she wants to be.
If she were to run and lose, even just lose the nomination, her earning power and political power would be greatly diminished. 2008 was “McCain's loss.” 2012 would be hers.
She has no personal NEED to be president. If she can help elect someone who will follow her policies, that is enough.
She hated the 2008 campaign. I had dinner with her last year, and although she would make no commitment to 2012, she hid no feelings about the elective process and the idiocy and pain a person has to go through to run.
Finally, right now, her endorsement is the most valuable thing (other than a big Iowa win) that any R candidate could ever want.
And remember the most important rule in politics, it's better to be the kingmaker than the king.
Right now, she is the relatively quiet 2012 kingmaker. If she chooses right, she is kingmaker in 16 and 20 as well. She is way too smart to give that up.
I wish she was president. I think she is too smart to run.
I can’t wait for her to announce; the whinging,whining, excuses,and lies will be a hoot to see and hear!
And secondly, read it and weep..... in person, she is an incredibly beautiful woman.
She looks good in photos, but the camera does not even begin to do her justice. Some models are “ok” in person, but beautiful on camera. She is great on camera, but exceptionally stunning in person.
When she sat down at the dinner table, most of the men had met her before, but there was a collective quiet gasp from the other man and all the (jealous) women who had no idea how beautiful she is.
Mrs. MindBender says she is probably a size 0, and in better shape than 99.9% of the other women in the world.
You left out the CRASH of '87, which would have happened even with your regulation suggestions.
You want those doing commodity futures to have to take 40% of the commodity? Do you not understand that farmers buy commodity futures to try to lock in prices and don't want possession of that commodity?
Presidents aren't dictators and any candidate that would layout you plan, would be out of her or her mind!
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh; do you want Palin to lose?
Maybe you missed my last post to you. The exact opposite scenario happens, if Sarah decides not to run.
Much of America has been betting on the fact that she's going to run for president for over a year now, and Sarah is acutely aware of this. No other candidate (or potential candidate) has the depth and breadth of grass roots support that she does. It amounts to millions upon millions of people who are relying on her to answer the call. Again - she is acutely aware of this, and has been, since the end of the 2008 election.
Sarah Palin loves and respects the American people (and her staunch supporters) far too much to string their hopes along this way. She knew in 2009 that she had to quickly come to a decision on whether or not to run in 2012, because the pressure for her to run was building even then.
She would have ended all rumors and speculation about her running for president, over a year ago, if that was her decision. The fact that she still hasn't made an announcement (either way) is proof positive to me that she is definitely in.
If for some strange reason, she opted out of the race at this late date, it would ruin her credibility with even her most ardent supporters, to say nothing of everyone else.
Perhaps you don't understand the expectations that have been laid upon her. Many millions of Americans are frankly looking for her to be a revolutionary leader who slays the 100 year old beast of Socialism in this country, and helps us to restore our nation to its Founding Promise.
She has shown every indication of being that leader, and of being determined to do that job, so the potential let-down can hardly be overstated. It would be seen as one of the nation's most historic lost opportunities, and many would feel a profound loss of all hope for our future.
Believing that she could somehow go on being the right's American darling, and a political kingmaker, is absurd. Millions of backs would turn on her at once, if she abandoned what many see as a sacred trust.
If she doesn't enter the primaries, her income will shrink expotencially, as will her influence! And no, this won't happen should she not win the nomination.
Michele Bachmann is actually the Katherine Harris, in your scenario. Rollins ran Harris' campaign and she lost. Do,please, try to keep up.
Palin's endorsement, of someone else for president is worth less than a pail of warm piss! You have NO idea what you're talking about and don't understand her supporters, nor the woman herself.
And your claim that it is "better to be the kingmaker, than the king" is patently ridiculous and in spades!
So cough it up...WHO are you supporting/interested in supporting, right now? STOP AVOIDING THIS QUESTION !
The candidate? Maybe you weren't paying attention, but Palin recently remarked that she didn't see anyone out there who she is willing to endorse.
So, what candidate are you talking about? Rick Perry, perhaps? He doesn't meet the bar that she proposed several months back. West? He's a freshman House rep, and has said that he's not running. DeMint? He's a legislator, and she clearly indicated that she would like to see someone with executive experience.
Everyone else of note is already in the race, and she's ruled them out, so who could she possibly be talking about?
I'll end this. Sarah knows in her heart and mind that she is the only person who meets the bar that she set in that statement. There is no other. She will enter the race, probably by late summer, and go on to win the nomination handily. Whipping Zero's ass is a foregone conclusion.
Get used to saying President Palin.
I’ve posted what you just did, REPEATEDLY, on this thread, all to no avail; apparently. We’re wasting our time and effort, trying to post facts to someone/s who refuse to see the facts of the matter.
Well stated.
Her announcement is just a matter of time.
God’s strength to her.
“Get used to saying President Palin.”
I so want to...I really do! But I cant. I read right here on FR from a number of Palin experts that she can’t win. No, they didn’t give a single reason that withstood the most basic scrutiny, but they said it over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and
with such conviction that it simply must be true.
Now I have read all of your well reasoned posts on why she will run and win, along with many posts from many other Freepers who added their own logical, reasoned rationales and like you, backed them up with actual evidence to support their assertions.
But you just don’t get it Windy. A few people believe she won’t because they said so! Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Sarah reliably brings out the eternal malcontents inadequacies like glaring lights on a Christmas tree. They are driven by their deep resentment against her, and feel the need to compensate for their deficiencies by insulting and trashing her to balance their numerous negatives against her strong positives.
I hope she runs, as Id love to see all those against Sarah going batty - a delicious feeling in itself, and a nice side benefit to our larger victory. ;-)
Great post, Ray. Sorry, I got sidetracked and missed it earlier.
I think that’s a great contribution to the forward motion, and a set of reforms that President Palin should implement.
A team made with Palin and Perry is what has been called “The Dream Team.” They have a great respect of each other. I think they would be undefeatable. If both run, whoever wins the primary should select the other as their running mate.
If Sarah would be Perry’s VP, she could have 8 years to bring great influence to Washington DC. At the end of her position as VP, she would be President for 8 years. Sixteen years working to get this country back to its greatness as the beacon of liberty in the world would be a great blessing. I am hoping that Sarah Palin will crush the head of socialism that has cursed the lives of so many people through the ages. The scourge of this political disease has held back the potential of humanity in a bad way. I think we would have had a cure for cancer by this time if socialism had not held humans back as it does.
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