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Flying by:A computer model of Volvo's flywheel, with an outer section cut away. Credit: Volvo

1 posted on 07/13/2011 12:44:58 PM PDT by Red Badger
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Automobile Tech Ping!.............


2 posted on 07/13/2011 12:46:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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Popular Science : August 1970
3 posted on 07/13/2011 12:55:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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And will the torque make it easy to turn right but hard to turn left?


4 posted on 07/13/2011 12:56:01 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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7 posted on 07/13/2011 1:00:55 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
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To reduce friction, they've sealed the flywheels inside a vacuum chamber.

Seems like for production automobiles, there would be a bigger problem with soft Chinese bearings than with drag from the *air*.

8 posted on 07/13/2011 1:03:25 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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Flywheels are great...as long as you don't want to turn and if you can overcome the gyroscopic action, it's great.

I recall talk of this back in the 90s for Tanks. One of the issues was that when the tank is moving, It can't turn or it could potentially flip over. That's a lot of energy.


9 posted on 07/13/2011 1:04:37 PM PDT by Malsua
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I wonder if a “normally sealed unit” - as “sealed” as most ordinary “sealed” units are in cars today, filled with some very slippery but dense liquid (to reduce the flywheel’s friction) and with the flywheel suspended in it (suspended in the liquid), would be better (”almost” as efficient and more economical) than a pure vacuum.

For heat (the sealed-in-fluid may obtain heat in the operation of the flywheel), engineer the casing of the unit to “exchange” the heat out of the unit in some way, either simply, because it - the casing is exposed to air somehow, or some more esoteric solution.


13 posted on 07/13/2011 1:23:34 PM PDT by Wuli
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Those things will act like C4 in an accident.
15 posted on 07/13/2011 1:30:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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utomakers face the problem of how to maintain the vacuum, since the seals that connect the flywheel to a transmission aren't perfect.

Simple, make the flywheel essentially the inner part of an electric generator. Add or bleed energy using electromagnets, not a mechanical transmission.

18 posted on 07/13/2011 1:37:01 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Some good back-of-the-cereal-box-reading here: http://flywheel.esmartbiz.com/facts.htm


23 posted on 07/13/2011 1:55:51 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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And how will the extra energy needed to spin the flywheel and carry its weight be offset by transferring its reduced spin to power the wheels? Sounds like perpetual motion to me.


26 posted on 07/13/2011 2:03:54 PM PDT by pabianice
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If you lose the vacuum just hand this back-up to your wife or girlfriend and say you need her to reduce some friction...


31 posted on 07/13/2011 2:16:11 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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The torque issues are real, no matter how the flywheel is oriented.

But equal counter-rotating wheels will address the issue fully, given a sturdy frame to connect them.


35 posted on 07/13/2011 3:46:24 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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