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Do Democrats and the NYT live in a parallel universe?

Medicare, Medicaid, government provided unemployment benefits are going away. The questions are how? And how soon? Raising the debt ceiling and/or raising taxes may prolong the agony, but the pain will be far worse when it finally has to be borne. And the price tag then could include the existence of the United States.

1 posted on 07/13/2011 11:10:37 AM PDT by Vintage Freeper
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To: Vintage Freeper

Taxpayers always take it “in the end.”


2 posted on 07/13/2011 11:11:54 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Vintage Freeper
A refusal to raise taxes, no matter how principled, cannot take us back to the good old days. It would instead lead to a very different American society.

Uhm, raising taxes will make the USA unrecongnizable as to what we know it as.

No New Taxes!

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5 posted on 07/13/2011 11:18:33 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Vintage Freeper
the first things to hit the chopping block should be whole departments and agencies of gov’t with the layoffs of 100 of thousands of bureacrats. Lets start with the BATFE. A classic example of a gov’t agency whose purpose has become to serve itself
7 posted on 07/13/2011 11:24:09 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Vintage Freeper
Free lunchism is ultimately the problem

Yeah, it's called the welfare state. We have run out of other people's money.

8 posted on 07/13/2011 11:27:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Vintage Freeper

Let me see, not raising taxes further will result in a far different American society then today? You mean the half of American society that is dependent upon big government?

Here’s a thought: The Repubs had better NOT agree to ANYTHING that raises taxes cause I, for one, am seriously looking for that different American society. =.=


9 posted on 07/13/2011 11:28:14 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Vintage Freeper

I don’t think you understand: WE LIBERALS SPENT YOU SUCKERS INTO A QUAGMIRE.

Now you have to pay for it.

You can thank us now. :)

/sarc(?)


11 posted on 07/13/2011 11:30:07 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Vintage Freeper

“Free lunchism” refers to those robbed by the IRS who want to keep what they worked hard for. Not to those getting goodies from big government.

wow.


14 posted on 07/13/2011 11:33:13 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Vintage Freeper
http://olbroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/clean-up.jpg From 5 of 2010.
16 posted on 07/13/2011 11:38:17 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Vintage Freeper

This article isn’t that bad. He is liberal but points out the problem clearly — Americans want a free lunch. His solution is a tax hike. He says the Republicans won’t be able to force a spending cut through because Middle America won’t stand for entitlement cuts. He sees a general tax increase with a pretty severe tax increase for the “rich.” Quite frankly, as much as I hate it and as much as I’d fight it, he may be right. Way too many Americans want a free ride paid for by “the rich.” We can’t get around that. Its depressing but true.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 11:41:48 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Vintage Freeper

We have the inflation tax from devalued currency.


18 posted on 07/13/2011 11:43:37 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Vintage Freeper
Ever notice how liberals and their LSM sycophants always start with services to the people and the military first? What about cutting the things that people object to most? Start with Obamacare, and all the other extra spending, new bureaucracy, and Czars which skirt the constitutional advise and consent of the senate for cabinet members.

Then reduce all government by 10-25%. The states have been reducing their employees, and adjusting retirement benefits, and combining departments to shrink the number of high paid employees at the top.

Roll all spending back to 2008 levels this year then to 2004 levels next year, then 2000 levels the year after that.

All of that stuff should be done, before they start to impact programs that old people have been stuck with due to government mandate. Some way must be found to help young people too.

There should be more choices than Social Security, and Medicare, but there should be an orderly phase-in and transition period. Those age 55 and older are pretty much stuck with the ponzi scheme, but that is no reason to doom younger workers to the same.

If Congress Critters can't figure out how to do this with out unduly harming the current recipients, then doom lies ahead. It will all come crashing down sooner or later.

20 posted on 07/13/2011 11:48:48 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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"Polls show that most Americans are opposed to raising the federal debt ceiling"

That statement is asinine, but understandable coming from the New York Slimes... Most American's couldn't tell you what a 'debt ceiling' is and when asked the question, it is likely that most of the respondents thought they were being asked a question about construction methods, rather than the actual national debt of the United States. LOL

The Pew Research Center is a joke, but the New York Slimes constantly rely on their nonsensical polls to justify their gobbly gook.

27 posted on 07/13/2011 12:30:47 PM PDT by jerod (They were Socialist, Pro-Abortionist, Gun Control Nuts & Excessive Environmentalist -the NAZI party)
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To: Vintage Freeper

At a certain point people will be driven to an underground economy. Then the government will become even more tyrannical in enforcing taxes further destroying the economy of the country. In the end the economy will collapse and the U.S. will breakup into smaller countries. It happened to the USSR it will happen here.


28 posted on 07/13/2011 12:55:16 PM PDT by MCF
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The socialists need to revive the Kennedy family’s “profile in courage” award.

That’s where socialists celebrate “heros” in office who defy the will and best interest of American citizens in order to force them to ingest rotten peas.


29 posted on 07/13/2011 1:05:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Vintage Freeper

Fine, we can start by extending the Federal Income Tax to the approximately 47% of the public who does not pay it.


30 posted on 07/13/2011 1:32:33 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vintage Freeper
Taxes will not rise but if and ONLY if we get control of the Senate and White House.

If the GOP stays fractured (which the dem/MSM axis is continues to fervently desire) taxes are likely to rise.

33 posted on 07/13/2011 2:04:47 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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