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ATF loses track of 1,400 guns in criticized probe
CNN ^ | 7/12/11 | Todd Schwarzschild and Drew Griffin,

Posted on 07/12/2011 6:28:22 PM PDT by Nachum

(CNN) -- Federal agents can't account for more than 1,400 guns after a widely criticized operation aimed at tracing the flow of weapons to Mexican drug gangs, sources with knowledge of the investigation tell CNN.

Of 2,020 guns involved in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives probe dubbed "Operation Fast and Furious," 363 have been recovered in the United States and 227 have been recovered in Mexico. That leaves 1,430 guns unaccounted for, the sources said.

The ATF operation was intended to build cases against Mexican drug cartels by allowing firearms to go from the United States into Mexico. The hope was by tracing the guns in Mexico, agents would be able to determine the structure of various cartels and then bring them down.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; castaway; dea; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; loses; melson; obama; track
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1 posted on 07/12/2011 6:28:25 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 07/12/2011 6:29:57 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: All

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3 posted on 07/12/2011 6:32:06 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I wonder if they’re being honest here.


4 posted on 07/12/2011 6:34:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nachum

my guess is that they are in Mexico.


5 posted on 07/12/2011 6:35:02 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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Lamestreamers finally being dragged kicking and screaming to the story.


6 posted on 07/12/2011 6:38:39 PM PDT by hemogoblin
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To: Nachum
The ATF operation was intended to build cases against Mexican drug cartels by allowing firearms to go from the United States into Mexico.

That, of course, is complete BS. The ATF operation was intended to build the case for expanding limitations on the rights of US citizens to purchase and own firearms.

7 posted on 07/12/2011 6:40:35 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: Nachum

Check the local Communist Party of Mexico Headquarters.


8 posted on 07/12/2011 6:42:49 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: screaminsunshine

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/07/10/mexico-drug-cartel-leader-arrested-guns-supplied-exclusively-government-34291/

Speaking of that...


9 posted on 07/12/2011 6:44:01 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

That’s bs. CNN is putting this story out to help Obama and Holder.


10 posted on 07/12/2011 6:47:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Nachum

The ATF and Obama never intended for these guns to be tracked or accounted for. CNN knows that.


11 posted on 07/12/2011 6:49:06 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Nachum
The hope was by tracing the guns in Mexico, agents would be able to determine the structure of various cartels and then bring them down.

A competent law enforcement would have had a strategy. With the quality of leadership in the BATF they create operations based on hope. I tend to think it was not about hope or cartels.

12 posted on 07/12/2011 6:53:02 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Nachum

How did CNN stumble into a slice of reality?


13 posted on 07/12/2011 6:54:43 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob
How did CNN stumble into a slice of reality?

The story is now big enough that CNN and AP, and others are being called on to "manage" it by pretending there was a legitimate justification for arming drug cartels.

14 posted on 07/12/2011 7:01:19 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Spartan79

I thought that once too, That the whole thing was to give Obama a chance to tak a shot at the 2nd. Amendment. Now I am not so sure.

I believe now that Obama’s shot at the 2nd. Amendment was just a happy happenstance of supplying the Cartels with guns, and that the drug deals and money paid off to American CIA and who knows who in American politics was the real reason.

I believe this thing if properly investigatd goes to the top and will make Watergate look like a Grade school field trip.


15 posted on 07/12/2011 7:02:31 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Nachum

Wow - CNN - whodathunkit?!


16 posted on 07/12/2011 7:02:56 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Spartan79
The Socialist mind knows that the public has to be manipulated or even criminalized to give up its freedom.
17 posted on 07/12/2011 7:07:25 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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18 posted on 07/12/2011 7:13:51 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Nachum

They lost track of all the 2020 guns. The ones they have accounted for include those already used in murders and other crimes. CNN made a good effort to minimize the story, but it still is ugly.


19 posted on 07/12/2011 7:16:41 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: little jeremiah

My gut tells me that 1400 is a little low.


20 posted on 07/12/2011 7:17:29 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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