[Persevero]

My solution is long term: end welfare.

I think this thuggery is largely a result of no-dad families. And I think no-dad families are a result of the welfare state.

Short term, strict law enforcement.

[MrB]

Homeschoolers sure are smart. :)

That’s exactly the right answer.

[Mr. Wright]

Enforce “hate crimes” legislation that is already on the books. OOpps, forgot, hate crimes DO NOT APPLY, when the perps are minorities and the victims are white. Soooooooooo sorry for that mistake.

[Mr. Wright]

Enforce “hate crimes” legislation that is already on the books. OOpps, forgot, hate crimes DO NOT APPLY, when the perps are minorities and the victims are white. Soooooooooo sorry for that mistake.

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2010/november/hate_112210/hate_112210

[Dilbert San Diego]

It’s hard for younger people to believe, but, there was a time in this country when a girl who got pregnant without a husband couldn’t just go on public assistance.

But, such restrictions were dropped as part of the major AFDC expansion under LBJ.

So, our official governmental policy was to be non-judgemental about how they became pregnant without a husband. The goal was to give them assistance without regard to their circumstances.

And eventually we ended up with a “baby mama” culture, in which we have normalized out of wedlock parenting.

And we normalized an expectation among certain people that there is a government program for every conceivable social problem. The expectation developed that people don’t need to do anything for themselves, but rather, that government programs would take care of their problems.

[robowombat]

Interesting point. How long is it before the ‘thug life’ phenomenon spreads from the Not the Amish community to the paleface community? Illegitimacy rates among the palefaces are now where they were among the Not the Amish in 1965 when the Moynahan report predicted pretty much what has happened to much of the Not the Amish community. The emergence of the ‘slacker’ lifestyle. And the drop in the numbers of men entering college doesn't have a lot to do with feminist venom and a lot to do with the unremarked on e,emergence of a paleface ‘baby mama’ culture and the attendant production of weak, purposeless, unmotivated young men for who drug dealing and petty crime become an exciting way to continue being slackers. Watch and see how the rise of paleface thug lite culture will appear as another baleful indication of a disintegrating culture.

[FLCowboy,]

My solution is long term: end welfare.

I think this thuggery is largely a result of no-dad families. And I think no-dad families are a result of the welfare state.

Short term, strict law enforcement.

Well said. People who have no self respect, no societal values, and no future. I can't imagine growing up in that environment. Ending welfare, or greatly reducing it will have a dampening effect on the problem, at least in the second generation.

[Wuli]

“I think this thuggery is largely a result of no-dad families. And I think no-dad families are a result of the welfare state.”

I think no-dad families are frequently a big part of the problem - though not the whole problem, and I think “the welfare state” was a negative factor that helped foster a lot of no-dad families - though it was not the only factor and it did not act alone.

Single moms who worked vigorously to keep other positive factors at work in their family - church, strict rules in the home, emphasis on getting an education, were many times able to help their kids overcome the deficit of the no-dad family. I think the biggest problem was the “no-dad family” together with the loss of other positive factors in the family. I am not saying that a “no dad” family is almost always a deficit in some sense. I am only saying a good mom can help to be sure it is not a fatal deficit.