Cartel chief says U.S. gov't sold them weapons
(Washington Times) Mexican police released a videotaped interview of Jesus Enrique Rejon Aguilar, in which the recently captured No. 3 leader of the Los Zetas drug cartel ...
Posted on 07/11/2011 2:17:58 AM PDT by Islander7
Handgun Club of America has been following the BATFE Project Gunrunner scandal as it unfolds. Like any government scandal, the media doesn’t always present a clear picture of what’s going on. Fortunately, with this scandal two RKBA advocates were on the ground-floor, so to speak, as the information came out. Thus, we can provide you a chronological look at the scandal as it unfolds.
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BREAKING:
A second “Gun walking” scandal is developing in the Tampa ATF field office. It appears that the Tampa field division had it’s own version of Operation Fast and Furious, letting guns “walk” into Honduras in Central America. Tampa’s Operation Castaway mirrors the debacle in Phoenix.
(Excerpt) Read more at handgunclub.com ...
Cordrea says, “Ogden’s 24 March 2009 presser on Project Gunrunner not exactly an admission of gunwalking. On the importance of not “jumping to illusions.”
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/07/deputy-attorney-general-david-shorty.html
If the article is not still at the top, scroll down to that title.
Come on, do you think that an Attorney General is going to say:
“As part of our new admnistration, Obama has ordered us to let rifles and guns across the border to mexican cartels in straw purchases and see what happens” ? ? ?
LMFAO. This is as close as we are going to get unless these criminals are put under the hot lamp.
Patience Grasshopper, patience.
NATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO FIRE ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER
Wayne LaPierre
Dear Fellow American:
I’ve just returned from the border between the United States and Mexico and I’ve never witnessed anything like the stinking, rotten level of murder, corruption, cover-up, and conspiracy confronting us today.
This conspiracy ignited two years ago when U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that your Second Amendment rights are to blame for the drug crimes and killings in Mexico.
Holder and other top-level Obama Administration figures — even the President himself — claimed that 90% of the guns used by violent drug cartels were coming from American gun dealers.
In short, they blamed our Second Amendment rights for the violence of the Mexican drug cartels.
But leaked U.S. State Department cables have exposed this as a bald-faced LIE.
SIGN THE NATIONAL PETITION TO FIRE ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER HERE:
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They started in under the umbrella of Gun Runner, but F&F was entirely of Obama’s making, and the doj letter, and the presser by the ass. ag seems to allude to that.
Cartel chief says U.S. gov't sold them weapons
(Washington Times) Mexican police released a videotaped interview of Jesus Enrique Rejon Aguilar, in which the recently captured No. 3 leader of the Los Zetas drug cartel ...
What and or who started under the umbrella of operation gunrunner? The only links between these two seperate programs are that this administration is trying to conflate them. Do a google search for operation gunrunner and you will see that they have all but become synonomous. Do you realise the huge error this is by people who should know better?
Cartel chief says U.S. gov't sold them weaponsYes. I saw that headline but didn't read the article.
As IMHO I already knew they did, or had to. Because there was no way these Mexican Cartels were getting Grenades, Rocket Launchers and Rockets (aka: Artillery), plus Full Auto Weapons from Wally World or any Gun Show or Store.
It had to be one source where these 'American Guns(1)' were coming from -- The US Government.
(1) Many regular folks don't know that our Special Operations Warriors have basically every type/make of weapon in the world in their 'weapons locker'. But the folks see: 'AK-47', and think -- Gun Show or Gun Store. Not from our gubmint.
an aside: We have a lifelong friend who was a Career Soldier (retired as an E8, Master Sergeant (Diamond in center) and spent most of his years in the Special Forces (MOS 18E). First with the 5th SF Group then the 10th SF Group. And back in the 80's their preferred weapon for a lot missions was the UZI.
Yes of course. But the money in the stim bill for fast and furious was listed as Gun runner.
I know the difference and of course the obama Junta is going to try to confuse the two.
ATF’s Fast and Furious Seems Colored With Shades of Iran/Contra Scandal
The operation that has put Melson in the hot seat before Congress is known as Fast and Furious, which was launched in October 2009 as an offshoot of Project Gunrunner — ATF’s larger effort to stem the flow of illegal weapons into Mexico
The problem with that is that the CIA may feel like kids in a candy store with doofuses like 0bama and Holder in charge. They are both sharp as banana peels and eminently black mailable. For an agency that wants to do whatever they feel like doing and get funding approved for wild-eyed black bag projects what could be better for them?
That's how they play the game. As I understand it, F&F was run under the Gunrunner umbrella and funded by Gunrunner.
You are correct though, not the same programs at all.
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