Posted on 07/11/2011 2:17:58 AM PDT by Islander7
Handgun Club of America has been following the BATFE Project Gunrunner scandal as it unfolds. Like any government scandal, the media doesnt always present a clear picture of whats going on. Fortunately, with this scandal two RKBA advocates were on the ground-floor, so to speak, as the information came out. Thus, we can provide you a chronological look at the scandal as it unfolds.
Below youll find a .PDF file that documents the unfolding scandal and provides a good look at the issues involved. Youll need Adobe Acrobat reader (click to get Acrobat reader free) to read the file if youve never used a .PDF file before.
The timeline shows how this scandal developed and allows you to understand just how dishonest and subversive this undertaking was. More importantly, we hope youll be as outraged at the implications it has for our country, our government and our constitution.
BREAKING:
A second Gun walking scandal is developing in the Tampa ATF field office. It appears that the Tampa field division had its own version of Operation Fast and Furious, letting guns walk into Honduras in Central America. Tampas Operation Castaway mirrors the debacle in Phoenix.
(Excerpt) Read more at handgunclub.com ...
We will update the .PDF file and let you know in this section the current date of the document. On the document itself, there will be a date-time stamp so you can see if your document is current.
We decided to use the .PDF format because its easily downloaded to your computer and can then be easily e-mailed to family, friends and other shooters. We also suggest that if you know some anti-gun liberals that you email it to them too. If theyre not shocked, surprised or outraged, they probably shouldnt be outdoors without supervision.
30 Page PDF file with footnotes and links to relevant documents.
I want a PDF file of Obama's Articles of Impeachment.
And a PDF file of Holder's Prison Sentence to 1,000 Life Terms in Federal Prison for Murder, Conspiracy & Gun-Running -- that are to run consecutively!
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Too many times here at FR, well-meaning folks will get an inaccurate bone in their teeth and run with it. Threads like this are what is needed to stop such wasted efforts and appearances of wing-nutery.
PING!! PDF file is excellent
A very clear, concise and documented explanation of who, what, when, where and how.
PING
Issa did say only 2 guns were given a tracking device. Otherwise there was no tracking of where the guns went until they showed up at a crime scene.
Basically, administration is stonewalling investigation.
You need to carefully read the article in this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2746706/posts?page=1
There is far more to this..and I always knew there was...just waiting for people to start talking about it.
Thanks. If you notice the April 2009 statement by DOJ, as well as the clip from that Ass. AG, both clearly say they are starting NEW INITIATIVES on the border at the behest of Obama and Holder. Logical inference is that is F&F.
If not, why has holder or melson not said what those “new initiatives” are in order to exculpate themselves from this?
Do I believe Zer0 and Holder were in on it from Inauguration Day? YES!!!
Can we PROVE it? NO!
Honduras? Why would ATF walk guns to Honduras?
and this........
Obama Admin Lobbying Honduras To Allow Zelaya Back In? Are You Kidding?
What could possibly be the motive behind this lunacy?
On the last day of December last year, Manuel Mel Zelaya, the deposed Honduran president and self-described victim of high-frequency radiation attacks by Israeli mercenaries, vowed to the press that he would return to Honduras. Few outside of Honduras have paid much attention to Zelayas MacArthur-esque prediction, but it has become apparent there is more behind his declaration than his usual hyperbole and bombastic absurdities.
Behind the scenes in the Obama administration there appears to be a concerted effort to pressure the democratically elected government of President Porfirio Lobo to dismiss charges of misappropriation of government funds and falsifying documents that are pending against Zelaya. This would open the door for his return to the country, and would be certain to undermine the delicate process of reestablishing democracy and order that is currently taking place in this poor and beleaguered nation.
When Zelaya was removed from office in July of 2009, the Obama administration at first joined with leftist dictators Fidel Castro of Cuba, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, and Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua in calling for his reinstatement. The Obama White House seemed oblivious to the Honduran constitution, as well as the threat Zelaya posed to the stability of the country and the region. When the courageous Honduran people held firm to their democratic constitution and refused to yield to the pressure exerted by the U.S., the Obama administration found no way of saving face other than reversing course and backing the democratic presidential elections called for by their constitution.
The Honduran Connection 7.7.11 Now we know why Hillary Clinton and Obama were falling all over themselves to support and prop-up the Honduran Marxist dictator-wannabe, Manuel Zelaya back in 2009. I never could figure out why they would create such blatantly unflattering, pro-Marxist optics for the Obama regime for a small country like Honduras. Now it all makes perfect sense. Zelaya attempted to overthrow the Honduran constitution and install himself as dictator for life, a la Hugo Chavez. The Honduran Congress AND Supreme Court followed their Constitutional Rule of Law to the letter and removed Zelaya. Within hours Obama and Clinton were threatening Honduras and demanding that the Marxist dictator Zelaya be re-installed. Now we know why. Obama and Clinton were arming Zelaya and were coordinating with Zelaya to run arms through Honduras. Presumably the deal was that some of the arms would stay with Zelaya and most would move into Mexico from the South. Then, Obama and Clinton could "find" U.S. guns in Southern Mexico and Central America, and thus use these optics to bolster their false contention that "90%" of Mexican guns were sourced directly from the U.S. "See? U.S. guns are all the way down in Chiapas State and Guatemala. U.S. guns are everywhere! The Second Amendment simply is not feasible any longer!"
Baby Doc's Back - will Obama Back Aristide?
US revokes visas to pressure Haiti on election
Its highly circumstantial evidence at the least and if this Ass Ag was spouting the same line as Holder in 2009 about these NEW INITIATIVES, then both need to be called back to testify again.
You CAN’T jump to conclusions.
You can’t go from A to D without going through B and C first.
Upthread I said “Can we PROVE it? NO!”.....I should have added “.....not yet!”
I am making a logical inference from the timeline, funding, statements of the particpants, etc.
At a minimum, Holder needs to be called back asap.
Issa seems to be getting all his ducks in a row. The alternative media is reporting on this in depth. Even the MSM is becoming involved as gov’t. entities answer questions and immediately have those answers proven false. I'd rather the drumbeat be steadily increased as is happening now and more information come to light before Holder, and ultimately Zer0, appear in the dock.
We are on the same page. I personally like the drip drip drip drip drip method on this.
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