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1 posted on 07/10/2011 6:25:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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we will look like every other socialist state.

Big state-subsidized industries without much competition, super wealthy friends of the political class and the politicians all at the top

everyone else dirt poor.

Leftist utopia!!


2 posted on 07/10/2011 6:27:30 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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The media is selling us Jimmy Carter’s prognosis for the nation for the second time.

A good leader will turn this around in short order.


3 posted on 07/10/2011 6:29:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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There's nothing wrong with this country that sane economic, immigration and tax policy won't fix.

The biggest obstacles we have right now are the golf pro in lieu of a president sitting in the white house, a mostly Marxist congress , a bunch of useless czars and an army of bureaucrats. In other words our government is working against us.

6 posted on 07/10/2011 6:34:04 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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I have an idea... they wipe us out, then we wipe them out.


7 posted on 07/10/2011 6:36:36 PM PDT by Brilliant
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And we can THANK Obama’s entire economic team that left town under the cloak of darkness. All that Theory they’ve been teaching for decades blew up in their face, and they didn’t have the guts to stick around and face the music. We Get To face it...but THEY are “protected by tenure in Harvardland”!!!


11 posted on 07/10/2011 6:40:59 PM PDT by radioone (How Can an Obscure Guy Who Did Diddly Squat in the Senate Become President?)
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Barefoot, pregnant, unemployed and forever beholden to the Dems for scraps. Utopia indeed.


14 posted on 07/10/2011 6:45:40 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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The solution is actually very easy...Get enough truly conservatives in office to lower coporate and personal taxes that will encourage US businesses to employ here.

LISTEN TO THIS.

I bought some Travelpro luggage via the internet last week. It’s beautiful luggage....the best I’ve ever owned. I bragged about it, showed it to my friends...Buying it through Amazon, I got a good price...didn’t pay tax on it... etc....

GUESS WHERE TRAVELPRO LUGGAGE IS MADE my friends?


15 posted on 07/10/2011 6:46:18 PM PDT by nikos1121
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socialism is a poison, it just takes decades to kill it’s host.


18 posted on 07/10/2011 6:52:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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Whenever i read this propaganda, i realize we are right where the collectivists want us.I started my business at a time when you couldn’t buy a job. There was a time when the force generating the economy was, “Find a need and fill it.” Have all our needs been fulfilled? Isn’t there still work to do?
God help us find that we still can help ourselves


19 posted on 07/10/2011 6:53:01 PM PDT by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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They can hire all the labor they want on the other side of the globe for a fraction of the cost. So the rich don't really have that much use for the working class in America anymore. The only thing of value that the working class had to offer has now been tremendously devalued.

First, I disagree with blaming "the Rich", which seems to be the focus of the first part of this article.

Back up and see that some of "the rich" got that way, a few pennies at a time, providing goods and or services to people who aren't "the rich". They weren't 'the rich' when they started, they had an idea and pursued it.

Walmart is a prime example.

The middle class created the demand for those services and items, and collectively, the middle class, even in dwindling numbers, can alter the equation.

If it isn't made here, leave it on the shelf.

Don't buy it.

Change the equation.

Demand things made here, and make the origin of the labor part of the equation. If the demand for American made is high enough, the rest will follow--as will jobs.

American jobs left because of a combination of regulation, taxation, and the consumer demand for 'cheaper', regardless of where 'cheaper' came from. Now, we are paying the price for 'cheaper'.

The other part of the equation is simple. Provide something the 'rich' want, and you're in business.

There are, of course, impediments, regulatory and otherwise, to be overcome.

The Marxists have been putting the squeeze on the Middle Class for decades. After all, without a maleable 'proletariat' their whole line of crap won't fly. Marxism sells best to peasants and people completely intellectually detached from the trenches of the workaday world, and relies on the dissatisfaction of the former to produce the violent upheavals needed to emplace a system even more onerous than the status quo.

Marketing the status quo as unliveable, unchangeable, and the result of someone else is key to fomenting unrest. Blame someone, and why not those who are the targets of collective envy?--even if they started out with far less.

The promise of 'fairness', of redistributed wealth from 'the rich' (which either does not happen, or, if evenly divided works out to a pittance per persson) is scant promise for a nation to sell its soul, but there are those who envision themselves living as if they were rolling in lucre, when in fact, Marxist 'equality' merely brings all (but the party elite) down to the same dirt-grubbing poverty and squalor while convincing (at gunpoint, if necessary) the masses they are so much better off.

We must ever guard against the fallacies inherent in that philosophy, and remove the impediments to creating wealth right here at home if our nation is to survive.

Whether the already-programmed masses of disaffected youth and discouraged elders and the race-baiters and professional victims can ever be salvaged is up to them, and I pray daily they will see the light. For as their numbers grow, the prognosis for this nation becomes ever more grim if they do not see that freedom from the lash of regulation and the chains of taxation is the key to economic emancipation, not the enslavement of those who have prospered providing what they, the masses, have demanded in the marketplace.

24 posted on 07/10/2011 6:58:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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There are many reasons for loss of “good” jobs. But I wonder if the 99 weeks (almost 2 years) of unemployment benefit is not one of them. I personally know 2 individuals who were laid off and decided to not look for jobs for several months because of the unemployment checks.

The other obvious reason of course is too many regulations on small businesses. The paper work required to run a small business is daunting.


26 posted on 07/10/2011 7:00:08 PM PDT by repub4ever1 (Capitalism is not perfect, but it beats all other systems hands down.)
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bfl


28 posted on 07/10/2011 7:09:11 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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They [rich] can hire all the labor they want on the other side of the globe for a fraction of the cost. That's not the problem. If they move a factory overseas they can use that cheap labor TO SELL TO THE LOCALS. Unfortunately, the locals can't afford to make the stuff they sell.**

The swindle that has been perpetuated is that they can use that cheap labor and bribe the pols into lowering our tariffs so they can sell to the once lucrative American consumer market. Again, unfortunately, they laid off each others customers and the middle class pays for it.

**When Perot was running he showed a picture of a Ford plant in Mexico and asked "What's wrong with this picture?" I didn't see anything but a factory. He then pointed out that there were no parking lots - the workers were all bused in from the barrios as they couldn't afford to buy the cars they made.

29 posted on 07/10/2011 7:26:21 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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“Working class” suggests anyone with money is not working class and somehow gets their money for nothing.


31 posted on 07/10/2011 7:52:42 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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“They can hire all the labor they want on the other side of the globe for a fraction of the cost. So the rich don’t really have that much use for the working class in America anymore.”

Hmmm. All the electrical contractors in my area are firing all their employees, but I must have missed all the Asians they brought in to take their jobs. The boss must have been lying to me when he said government regulations and the threat of Obamacare were what was putting him out of business.


37 posted on 07/10/2011 9:32:16 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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38 posted on 07/10/2011 9:36:39 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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“many are now wondering if we are actually witnessing the slow death of the middle class.”
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Of course not! This is ridiculous nonsense, where do people get such crazy ideas? We are actually witnessing the RAPID DEATH of the middle class.


43 posted on 07/11/2011 5:33:35 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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Are all of the teachers, social workers, environmentalists, lawyers, regulatory employees and most of the police in your locale laid off, yet? Are your property taxes way down? Has your HOA ceased bothering to have meetings? If not, then the consequence of their stealing and spending hasn’t progressed far enough for a good housecleaning.


44 posted on 07/11/2011 2:27:56 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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truth


50 posted on 07/11/2011 4:10:20 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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