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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 10 July 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 10 July 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/10/2011 5:21:46 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: rodguy911

So How do we get secure cuts that last?

can you imagine if I am this confused or ignorant, how the average dummy can be confused and lied to by the mSM?


181 posted on 07/10/2011 8:44:03 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: 9YearLurker

Perry /Bachmann would be pretty strong


182 posted on 07/10/2011 8:45:09 AM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: ejdrapes

He had to be pressed to say anything bad about Bachmann. However saying her record was NON EXISTENT was quite accurate

MB MIGHT have had a chance if only 2 things happened..First that Palin would not run, and secondly that she had not attacked Palin.

So if by some reason (GOD FORBID) Sarah does not run, Bachmann has already committed political suicide by attacking Palin.

MB does not have the character/judgment to be President, she proved that when she Okay-ed Rollins for the Palin attacks...not only that but her own comments ...such as...Refusing to answer Christian Post interviewer...If you do not run, could you support a Palin run for President? She would not answer

also comments like...Sarah Palin has nothing to do with me etc etc

Just think of the lost opportunity MB put on herself if Gov Palin does not run, she has totally lost a good portion of Palin supporters, and she only has herself to blame.

I am just glad that the truth about MB character has come out early. I have 210% written her off


183 posted on 07/10/2011 8:45:44 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (DID I MENTION......SARAH PALIN OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: 9YearLurker

Palin/Perry is an absolute winning ticket!!


184 posted on 07/10/2011 8:46:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
Class warfare being the biggest.

Their word is "SHARED SACRIFICE" all the while never ever bringing up the FACT that 51% of Americans do NOT pay income tax. They call it "SHARED SACRIFICE" to go after biz jet owners while leaving their protected class in the tax-free zone.

Hogwash to all of this until the GOP STSNDS UP AND EXPLAINS THE FACTS TO AMERICANS. Joe 6-pack has no clue other than the GOP wants to cut into the goodies and the RAT stand for the little guys - that is all they learn from the LSM 24x7. GOP for the most part is silent, cowering under the desk for fear of the LSM.
185 posted on 07/10/2011 8:46:06 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: chiller

No, it would be a doubling of their mutual greatest weaknesses, which is the fundamentalist flavor of their social conservatism.

Perry has been able to play that up to conservative effect in Texas and backers of the marriage amendment are the ones who brought Bachmann to the Congressional party. But all of Perry’s prayer-service holding and whatnot would be badly amplified by Marcus Bachmann’s talk of the need to ‘discipline’ gay ‘barbarians’.

Perry’s cartoonish machismo would also be poorly amplified by Michele’s talk of submitting to her husband within their home, only going to law school because he told her too, etc.. The nation’s moderates and independents have no interest in some sort of personal Christian sharia.

The country is quite conservative on tea party, Constitutional and tax-and-spending issues, but they are much more liberal on the social side and Perry and Bachmann would be a big mistake for a GOP that is poised to win on economic issues. Yet another case of the Republicans snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


186 posted on 07/10/2011 8:52:05 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
There is only one way to deal with the left since they are so slick and kabars' example of how they gamed us on a recent 100 million dollar cut and slimed it down to 60 billion then 35 billion and then 380 million is a perfect example of what/who we are up against.

Here is how the game must be played if we ever want to win against these socialists hell bent on destroying capitalism.

As we accrue budget savings from cuts in spending, be it 20-25 billion per month or whatever, that is the amount we increase the debt ceiling and not one penny more.

It's the only way to save the country and the only responsible way to get to solvency if we eve get there.

187 posted on 07/10/2011 8:52:27 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Agreed! I hope Perry’s smart enough to go for it.


188 posted on 07/10/2011 8:53:05 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: tomd2; kabar

Guess the best explaination of the deficit I will get is the Jack Daniels explaination for the deficit.

http://dailybail.com/home/jack-daniels-explains-the-deficit.html

At least I dont care anymore because because I drank all the Jack trying to figure it out;).


189 posted on 07/10/2011 8:53:39 AM PDT by tomd2
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To: tomd2

Jeff Sessions did a good job on FTN this morning hitting the key words of Increased Rate of Spending. He said several times that any time “CUTS” are mentioned, it is not that the government will be spending less money on SS, Medicare, etc; only a reduction in the amount of the Increase in spending in the next budget.


190 posted on 07/10/2011 8:54:28 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Cheerio
Exactly cheerio. Our side is ever so weak in framing arguments in a timely, short and concise manner.

We get bogged down and wind up with Rush and others having to clean up the mess.its part of what we do here as well,clean up the mess.

191 posted on 07/10/2011 8:56:00 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: 9YearLurker

There is so much in play and everything seems to change every week. Nothing is in stone until the convention.


192 posted on 07/10/2011 8:57:32 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Cheerio
51% of Americans do NOT pay income tax.

Rush called these tax filers "loophole recipients" when he was trying to explain the math behind the pejorative spin of "loophole" to a caller this week. Many even get checks for thousands of dollars from the IRS: earned income and/or child credits.

193 posted on 07/10/2011 8:59:28 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Daveinyork

He never opens is wide enough. He was speaking on the spinate floor the other day and you could hardly see his lips move. Someone must have told him the only time a politician lies is when his lips move.


194 posted on 07/10/2011 9:00:16 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: rodguy911

No way would a governor of 10 years run for VP. Neither Palin, nor Perry, if they decide to run would accept a VP slot. I just refuse to believe it.


195 posted on 07/10/2011 9:00:35 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: rodguy911

Ageed the Repubs could do a better job framing the discussion. as an example, When did legit tax deductions, approved by Congress, become loopholes.

In 2009 the democratic congress approved the accerated depreciation of executive airplanes to spure that industry. now 2 years later it a nasty loophole. soon they will be going have deductions for business use of boats so they can kill that industry again.

A tax deduction is not a loophole. It is a legal deduction permitted by congress. Repeat.


196 posted on 07/10/2011 9:03:28 AM PDT by tomd2
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To: Alas Babylon!
I believe this election will come down, once again, to the lowest common denominator, and that will be our most easily-swayed ignorant and lazy voters.

I actually think that is going to be quite the opposite way this time. What I read in the letters to the editor's and the comments on line to the newspapers is the Middle America is SOOO pissed off at "Everything Government" that the uprising in 2012 is going to be breath taking.

197 posted on 07/10/2011 9:04:57 AM PDT by fedupjohn ("They act like permanent residents of a unicorn ranch in fantasy land"....Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

What kind of structure or operating principle or “agreement” do we agree to that wil acutally make this happen? why wouldn’t the admin just say “ok” and then NOT make the cuts as they increase the debt?

How do we “force’ them to continue with the plan in the months (or years) to come? that’s the part I don’t get.


198 posted on 07/10/2011 9:05:00 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: 9YearLurker
Are you in Texas, or just an astute and close observer ? I've not heard much of this Perry background. Good points, given this history.

Have you worked in politics ?

199 posted on 07/10/2011 9:09:49 AM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: Friendofgeorge
Bachmann did not attack Palin. And what Ed Rollin said, he said basically around the time it was leaked he would be working for Bachmann. He hasn't said anything since and according to Politico personally apologized to Palin. This is the biggest non-story anti-Bachmann supporters continue to peddle. And it just makes them look like a bunch of cry babies whining that he hasn't apologized in public. As if, if he did they would accept it as genuine anyway. Hardly.

As far as Bachmann not having done much in congress, she was first elected in 2006. The GOP didn't take over congress until 2011. How much, realistically, could she accomplish with the Dems controlling congress? Besides, accomplishing things in DC usually means bad things for the country. I do know how she's voted on major issues and that's what is important to me.

Of course Bachmann is going to get hammered on the lack of 'executive experience'. That's fair. But for Pawlenty to be doing it now just shows what a weak candidate he is. He's the one with 'executive experience' and can't get above 6% in the polls and is well behind Bachmann in Iowa. If 'executive experience' was so important to voters wouldn't he be cleaning her clock in Iowa? Especially when he's spent so much time there in the last two months?

200 posted on 07/10/2011 9:10:29 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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