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1 posted on 07/10/2011 1:47:34 AM PDT by Strategy
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LOL


2 posted on 07/10/2011 2:06:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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4 posted on 07/10/2011 2:22:40 AM PDT by magslinger (Zombies make up much of the Democrat's base.)
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Iran has to know that if they were to sink one of our carriers even this marxist mooselimb magic negro will have to nuke their sorry asses.
And if he didn’t respond thusly then he’d get the axe and the next pres would do so.


6 posted on 07/10/2011 3:14:53 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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from Wiki:

Millennium Challenge 2002 (MC02) was a major war game exercise ...and cost $250 million, involved both live exercises and computer simulations. MC02 was meant to be a test of future military “transformation”—a transition toward new technologies that enable network-centric warfare and provide more powerful weaponry and tactics. The simulated combatants were the United States, referred to as “Blue”, and an unknown adversary in the Middle East, “Red”.

Red, commanded by retired Marine Corps Lt. General Paul K. Van Riper, used old methods to evade Blue’s sophisticated electronic surveillance network. Van Riper used motorcycle messengers to transmit orders to front-line troops and World War II light signals to launch airplanes without radio communications.

Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue’s fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces’ electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships.

An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel.

Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue’s navy was “sunk” by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue’s inability to detect them as well as expected.[1]

At this point, the exercise was suspended, Blue’s ships were “re-floated”, and the rules of engagement were changed; this was later justified by General Peter Pace as follows: “You kill me in the first day and I sit there for the next 13 days doing nothing, or you put me back to life and you get 13 more days’ worth of experiment out of me. Which is a better way to do it?”[2]

After the reset, both sides were ordered to follow predetermined plans of action, leading to allegations that the exercise was scripted and “$250 million was wasted”.[3] Due to his concerns about the scripted nature of the new exercise, Van Riper resigned his position in the midst of the war game.

He was quoted in the BBC–Discovery Channel documentary The Perfect War[4] as saying that what he saw in MC02 echoed the same view promoted by the Department of Defense under Robert McNamara.


7 posted on 07/10/2011 3:29:30 AM PDT by tlb
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I’ll huff and I’ll puff..... =.=


11 posted on 07/10/2011 4:31:36 AM PDT by cranked
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I thought everything was going to be so much better once we got rid of Saddam Hussein. It sure would be nice now to have Saddam still around to check the Iranians. Now some of the same perpetual war types that got us into trouble in Iraq are eager to make even a bigger mistake with Iran. Iran is run generally by bad people, but that does not mean that this Iranian regime cannot be useful to us in the future by helping to control our common enemies, the Taliban, as they were in the past. Iran is not a major threat to American security, it was not Iran that flew those airplanes on 9/11. Let's not again take our eye off international terrorism as Bush's gang did when they left Afghanistan unfinished in search of new war in Iraq.
14 posted on 07/10/2011 4:51:00 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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Everyone on this post thinks pRes_ _ent Obama will do
the “right thing”.
That is not likely given his history. It is his way.

More likely, this will be orchestrated by Iran and
Obama by changing the ROE, and then having Obama
lash out at Israel. The Congress will cry. It is their way.


21 posted on 07/10/2011 5:04:56 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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Shocking! To think that in the case of military action against Iran... that Iran would target our *MILITARY* assets.

Everyone knows that the only legitimate targets are women and children.

(Sheesh, this is on par with saying that the sky is blue and water is wet... and in war, militaries fight each other!)


32 posted on 07/10/2011 5:26:31 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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Bring it on!

Mikke

33 posted on 07/10/2011 5:28:41 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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I think it’s time to wipe these loudmouth ragheads off the face of the earth.


37 posted on 07/10/2011 5:35:38 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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Fine.

Take out a carrier, and Tehran and Isfahan are nuked, plus we take over Kharg Island and keep the oil.

Iran is the head of the hydra, and we need to stop pretending we are not already at war with them.


39 posted on 07/10/2011 5:38:37 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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I wonder if certain people have ever thought of using a concept of smaller drone aircraft, basically mini cruise missiles or not too expensive large RC aircraft, a thousand or more available each with a video feed and with a program that would target small suicide boats.

The Navy had dirigibles that launched smaller fighter planes, perhaps a modernized airship could also be the launching platform for weapons designed for massed attacks from all points of the compass at the same time.


47 posted on 07/10/2011 6:13:33 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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Parking lot.


52 posted on 07/10/2011 6:21:01 AM PDT by bgill
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No shit Dick Tracy!


56 posted on 07/10/2011 6:35:07 AM PDT by Roklok
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A senior Revolutionary Guard commander threatened Saturday that U.S. aircraft carriers would be targeted if Iran came under attack ....
Uh ... mr 'senior Revolutionary Guard commander' THAT would be a baaaaaad idea.
Like what's that saying again??? Oh yeah ...
"Go ahead. Make my millennium"
You'll be getting your '72 Sturgeons' faster than you can say, "Allahu Akb..."

63 posted on 07/10/2011 7:23:56 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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Yawn....


73 posted on 07/10/2011 8:57:52 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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97 posted on 07/11/2011 5:00:19 AM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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I think the operative word here is if attacked. Is it presumed that we would attack with a minimal force? I would think that if we were to attack, It would be in force with the intention of hitting everything that could pose a threat to ships or bases in the area and to deny the Iranians the option of mounting a well coordianted counter.


100 posted on 07/11/2011 11:01:37 AM PDT by Always Independent
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