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Conservative group backtracks on marriage pledge slavery language
Politico ^ | 07/09/2011 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 07/09/2011 9:35:16 PM PDT by Hawk720

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To: nopardons

Slavery is word to be avoided at all possible costs unless its being condemned.


21 posted on 07/10/2011 3:57:33 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen
Slavery is word to be avoided at all possible costs unless its being condemned.

Which is why I will forever use the word to describe the tax burden that productive people face in this country. Forced redistribution is slavery.

22 posted on 07/10/2011 4:21:55 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: RightFighter
No candidate should sign this pledge or any other. These groups are coming out of the woodwork demanding candidates sign THEIR pledges or they will not support them.

The idea of pledges in the first place is the problem--not this particular part of this pledge. The whole thing is nothing but an opportunity for the Family Leader to try to remain relevant in Iowa.

This group has made so many mistakes, they deserve to fade off into obscurity. No more pledges!!

23 posted on 07/10/2011 4:32:26 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: HereInTheHeartland
The Family Leader (The Dollar Follower) just can't seem to do anything right any more. Maybe that's because they're looking for a way to remain relevant.

Just about a week ago, VP goes on the Mickelson show and stabs very good Republican lawmakers in the back and then rightfully got his comeuppance from a couple of those lawmakers he was stabbing.

The ironic part was that during the whole legislative session TFL had done nothing to help advance the pro-life legislation to prevent late-term abortion in Iowa and then he goes on the air and criticizes the Republicans for "lack of leadership" regarding the issue.

This whole issue of demanding candidates to sign pledges is out of hand and I'll have more respect for the next candidate who tells the next group where to stick their pledge.

We need to demand that candidates sign a pledge that they will not sign any more pledges.

24 posted on 07/10/2011 4:41:12 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Hawk720

The conservative group should pack it up and go home. Their sanctimony is offensive and serves no purpose than enhancing their own self esteem.

They do more harm than good. they do no good at all


25 posted on 07/10/2011 4:49:44 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: Hawk720
"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA?s first African-American President," read the preamble. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/58631.html#ixzz1RhZQspiK

From the article.

26 posted on 07/10/2011 4:56:21 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Hawk720
From the article:

"She signed the 'candidate vow,' " campaign spokeswoman Alice Stewart said, and distanced Bachmann from the preamble language, saying, "In no uncertain terms, Congresswoman Bachmann believes that slavery was horrible and economic enslavement is also horrible."

It wasn't clear whether Bachmann had read the "slavery" language in the preamble, but Stewart later added Bachmann "stands behind the candidate vow - which makes absolutely no reference to slavery."

Comments?

27 posted on 07/10/2011 5:04:29 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“This whole issue of demanding candidates to sign pledges is out of hand “

Totally agree. It sounds like what school children do on the playground.


28 posted on 07/10/2011 5:44:09 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Real hope and change comes in January 2013)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Proving a total vacuity of interest in classical Indian literature, some Americans involve themselves in the taking and giving of pledges as though they were universally meaningful.

As even the poorest peasant in India could tell you, pledges will almost certainly lead you to ruin and should be avoided.

29 posted on 07/10/2011 6:02:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I demand that all candidates sign my pledge that they won’t sign any pledges. If not, they will not get my support. And while they are at it, at the next debate, I want them all to “raise their hands” if they don’t believe in pledges.


30 posted on 07/10/2011 6:07:41 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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To: DoughtyOne

AGREED— And the Democratic Party politic is all about keepin the negro on the Democratic Plantation and doing high tech lynchin’ of any uppity educated black man who attempts leave that plantation.The Only people the Democratic Party benefit are the Party bosses (just like their Communist Party mentors)


31 posted on 07/10/2011 6:14:29 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: meyer

Thats fine. I just hate giving people ammo to use against me.


32 posted on 07/10/2011 6:18:05 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: nopardons
Absolutely no "good" was served by the stupid "pledge", nor the signing of same. All this did was give ammunition to those who hate GOPers, Christians, and abolitionists of old.

It was an obvious trap Bachmann wasn't smart enough to avoid.

She's a gift to Obama for sure and maybe even Romney. She's looking more like a stalking horse, a black hole for conservative votes and dollars every day.

No one takes Santorum's candidacy seriously except his kids who keep asking why he's always gone--something he mentioned in a debate.

33 posted on 07/10/2011 6:55:27 AM PDT by newzjunkey ("cave" it's not just a hole in the hillside)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Meaningless. Perception is reality. Her people should have, and could've easily, done some due diligence on the pledge before she signed off.

It's yet another failure of Bachmann leadership.

It's like she'll sign anything except DeMint's very simple cut-cap-balance pledge.

34 posted on 07/10/2011 7:00:01 AM PDT by newzjunkey ("cave" it's not just a hole in the hillside)
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To: newzjunkey

I agree that she should have looked before she leaped, but at least she’s willing to take on the homosexual agenda.


35 posted on 07/10/2011 7:08:45 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: Hawk720

[[Conservative group backtracks on marriage pledge slavery language ]]

This entire episode is a case study in why conservatives (and conservatism) loses in the public forum of ideas.

1. Conservative group or person makes a controversial statement (such as the suggestion that black children enjoyed more stable “families” under slavery than in many situations today - a statement which has the ring of truth).

2. The left screams “racism”, or, what-have-you.

3. The conservative person or group goes wobbly, starts trying to “clarify” his/her/their remarks.

4. The left screams louder.

5. The conservative person or group “apologizes” and retracts his/her/their earlier remarks. The “retraction” has no bearing to the fact that the remarks are based on truth. Rather, it comes with ONE reason: to “save face” and to stop the screaming.

When are conservatives going to stand up to the screamers and say, “I said what I meant and meant what I said, I’m NOT sorry, I’m NOT going to apologize, and I’m NOT going to take back what I said, for truth is truth.” ????

Just sayin’....


36 posted on 07/10/2011 7:47:42 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: StonyBurk

Good point. I didn’t agree with Powell on a lot of things, Condoliza Rice either, but the way the Leftists went after them just because they were in a Bush administration, wow.

If you’re a black woman social worker, you’re a genius. If you’re a black Conservative, you’re an Uncle Tom.


37 posted on 07/10/2011 8:22:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: Hawk720

Put a fork in Bachmann! Not because of this pledge, but because she has no character and her judgment is in question.

Bachmann put a fork in herself when she sent Rollins out to attack Gov Palin.


38 posted on 07/10/2011 8:49:56 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (DID I MENTION......SARAH PALIN OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Hawk720

Once again the GOP kowtows to the Marxist. Yet we are supposed to vote for them.


39 posted on 07/10/2011 8:55:31 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: RightFighter
The other argument is this....Not that the black folks are totally responsible for abortion in this country, however as a group they had the power to prevent many/most of the 60 million plus abortions that have taken place.

Same can be said of American Catholics, they also had the power as a group to prevent the aprox 60 million abortions that have taken place.

Also Black`s/Catholics both have blood on their hands, not just for abortion, but gay marriage, having prayer and God`s Word removed from public square etc.

For full disclosure RINO WASP`s etc that have voted Democrat or for moderate Republicans etc, also have blood on their hands. Not sure if this group alone could have prevented all the death/destruction? But certainly the other 2 groups on their own could have prevented liberal Supreme Court Justices from ever having their say.

Black`s have such a rich Christian heritage, but now when they wave their arms in Church Sunday Morning saying they Love Jesus, it`s all in vain IMHO

40 posted on 07/10/2011 9:04:01 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (DID I MENTION......SARAH PALIN OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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