Marriage:
Homosexual is not the same. Homo is a bunch of brain damaged freaks.
Posted on 07/09/2011 4:09:13 PM PDT by annie laurie
These internet polls are pretty useless if you are talking about who would actually vote in any sort of popular process involving “gay marriage”. Older folks generally vote more and are more likely to be against the homosexualist agenda, and are less likely to be on the internet to even participate in these polls. There is no way 80-90% is for “gay marriage”. It is probably more like 55-65% against “gay marriage”. Of course many states are much more against it, and some populous states are probably in the low 50% range, if not actually having a slim majority for “gay marriage”. In 10-20 years, maybe sooner, you might see a majority for it, considering 20 years ago it wasn’t really an important issue.
Freegards
Marriage is a covenant between G-d and man. Marriage is not a covenant between government and man. All marriages outside of the Covenant between G-d and man are merely civil unions.
Their poll is meaningless.
According to this site:
http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=16430
only 9 states don’t have statues prohibiting homosexual ‘marriage’.
39 states have one man one woman statues.
The people have spoken time and time again, when given the chance to via the ballot box.
I’m willing to bet the conservatives of my generation generally don’t vote yet. Why? It’s only cool to be political if you support 0bama in most of the younger crowd. Conservatives are literally suppressed; We’re intimidated in the state schools. However, only a fraction actually fall off of the conservative wagon.
The kids today.
That will be a tough trend to reverse.
It isn't going to be reversed. When you talk to college-age kids through maybe late-30's, most will flat out tell you that they don't see anything wrong with gay marriage, and/or they don't want the government in their business.
I don't see how one gets around that.
There are dangerous pitfalls in telling young people that when the Democrats (liberals) want to control your life, it's wrong, but when the Republicans (conservatives) want to do it, it's a really good idea.
As for myself, I am a libertarian at heart, and would like to see the issue taken out of government hands entirely. Everyone gets a civil union, unless they take the step of getting their church of choice to perform religious vows.
Why should it be the government's place to tell you with whom you can make a contract as long as you are adults?
The government will always use the power given to take more and use it against citizens. Why people clamor for more government control over their neighbors and refuse to understand that the same power will one day be used against them is beyond comprehension.
It is an inevitability. We've already seen it in family law, and yet people clamor for more, ignorantly thinking that this time it'll be different. It's never different.
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Leaving it up to the states is worthless. "Full faith and credit" means Judges Gone Wild will force it on all the states. Actually JGW is a big part of the problem. Leftists are in many - most - positions of power right now and even if the majority of people voting don't want same sex "marriage", it gets forced on them anyway.
>>> An estimated 3 percent of this country are ‘sodomites’ and yet .. 97 percent of this country’s population see nothing wrong with the lifestyle!?
Of course they don’t.
If you insist on labels nearly ALL sexually active heterosexual adults are “sodomites”. Because nearly ALL sexually active heterosexual adults also engage in oral sex, and many engage in anal sex as well.
CDC statistics.
The word loses a lot of its boogeyman value when it applies to nearly all everyday adults.
Not one supporter of same sex marriage will explain to me why, if legalized and two gay men will be able to marry, why those two men cannot be brothers.
One state legislator that is openly gay and continues to put forth same marriage bills flat out told me he does not recognize nor support marriage between brothers, brother & sister, multiple or any other arrangement of legal age.
I asked him how is it true “equality in marriage” if he still retains old fashioned prohibitions.
He refuses to answer.
Kids have been brainwashed using two methods: 1. Homowood productions promoting all the wonderful fantasy of deviant behavior using sitcoms like Will and Grace where those that don’t go for the deviance are painted as the stupid and bigoted—never a mention of male homos consuming fecal material, the transmission of disease where 100% of male homos vector diseases by unusual transmission routes, and their obsession with young boys, etc; 2. constant sexual harrassment of kids in schools by homos and their homophilic followers passing it off as sex education from early grade school up. The bottom line is, kids can be forced to accept anything. The behavior, like IV drugs is very detrimental to their health, but that is an aspect rarely mentioned and the real impact is virtually ignored.
This circus is over, folks. Fold up the tents and go home.
We let the left have the schools and set the narrative, and this is just a small sample of what they have given us.
Yes
84.11%
No
15.89%
Marriage:
Homosexual is not the same. Homo is a bunch of brain damaged freaks.
Who said Republicans are trying to control anything. Its just that men and women go together as naturally intended and men-men/women-women do not. It is a historical and traditional fact of life. No amount of lawyerly wordsmithing and forced acceptance will ever change that. Black is black and white is white. You can decree the opposite, but the facts remain.
Its about bringing down society as well as money & benefits. If you allow gays to marry, why not room mates? After all, your room mate deserves to have your work benefits don't they? What about incest or marrying your family pet?
There must be some standard or society crumbles.
The same exact trend takes place on a host of issues. The trend on how many young people viewed abortion as a right has certainly been changing. So why?
I say the truth ends up winning out in the end and the battle must be continued to educate young people and society as a whole.
And you call yourself a libertarian as if that should be the answer for conservatives as well. BS.
The entire reason that the left-wing is able to sway young people to believe in things like abortion rights and homosexual rights is because they use libertarian type arguments to do so. Libertarianism is a tool of the left-wing they use to distort the ideals of liberty and out flank conservatives to appear more aligned with freedom and liberty.
Libertarianism though is extremely misguided as an ideology of liberty and freedom being that it gives no respect at all for a person’s right to representation on issues of public safety and issues of public decency. Young people though are not concerned as much with these issues yet because they do not fully understand them.
By claiming that we should get the government out of the marraige business you are claiming that we should give up our right to representation on the issue as well.
So what next should we give up our right to representation on?
Should we give it up on all issues of public decency? Let people walk naked through public? Let people have sex on their front lawns? Just give up all say on these issues?
Should we get out of the business of legislating the ‘age of consent’? Just let people start their kids on a path of sexual relations with adults from whatever age they decide they want to?
Libertarianism is a Marxist tool designed to attack the conservative ideal of individual liberty. It takes that ideal and makes the most extreme example out of it in order to undermine it.
If you combine two planks of the democrat party right now (Universal health care and homosexual rights) you have to wonder where the two will end up intersecting if they were to both go the way the democrats wanted.
Homosexuality and other sexual perversions are highly prone to disease and other health issues. With the democrats now in full force trying to promote homsexuality and other sexual perversions to school age children there will come a time when the healthcare system gets overburdened by this.
So if the government was in control of all healthcare as the democrats want then when will the time come when that power is used to bring about great misery to all who have been effected by these actions and health care is denied to those who personal choices resulted in their misery.
Every socialist seeks to create a system whereas great misery is brought to the masses. They seek to bring poverty and misery and hoplessness. They then will throw a bone every now and then to the public and proclaim themselves to be a great defender of the people. It is typical Marxist tactics.
It’s an internet poll, so it is pretty much geared to represent those who are more likely to take internet polls.
AS far as an US amendment, the time to do that was the 90’s. I doubt if it could be done now, but if it is going to happen the sooner the better if the trend on the issue keeps going the way it generally has. The average of the state amendments that have passed is 67%, but most of them passed in the middle of the last decade, I imagine the majority would still pass, and many would pass by a lot, but by a somewhat lower %. There are some that passed in the low 50% range that might not pass now.
As soon as they think they have the numbers, they will howl for the amendment process/popular vote to repeal any pro-marriage amendments/laws. It will be interesting to see what happens to prop.8 if it is upheld by our black robed masters, it only passed by 52% in 2008, if I recall.
Attitudes on abortion have kind of turned around in recent years, so perhaps something like that could happen to “gay marriage”. Also, Arizona failed to pass an amendment and then passed one a few years later. But the general trend in the last 3 or four decades has just been one way, in my opinion.
Freegards
That is a good point. Also the effects of chemical birth control and abortion might be looked at by a state that controls all healthcare and wants to prevent as much illness as possible.
Its the same thing as finding “gay genes” that would make one have a greater proclivity to be gay. The “reproductive rights for any reason” and the “no homosexualist discrimination for any reason” groups would have a war. Militant lesbians who live for both issues will have breakdowns.
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I hope this poll isn’t even remotely legit
FReeped.
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