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There is much more at the link.

Hard to argue against the truth.

1 posted on 07/08/2011 11:27:50 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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I think it would be better to return to the days when we tied rocks to people and threw them in the river. If they drowned, they were innocent. If they lived, they were guilty and put to death.

All this "due process" gets in the way of justice!

2 posted on 07/08/2011 11:31:25 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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This is nothing new. Lizzie Borden was probably guilty too, but the state could not come up with enough evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Our system is set up with a bar high enough that very few innocents are convicted, but that means some guilty go free.

3 posted on 07/08/2011 11:32:45 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Excellent article. No one wins, we all just see how far society has collapsed.


4 posted on 07/08/2011 11:35:28 AM PDT by mockingbyrd
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How much will the Anthony family make from book(s)/movie(s) based on this tragedy? They should be banned from making a nickel on it. However our sick society will clamour for reading about it or seeing it in 3D.


8 posted on 07/08/2011 11:37:29 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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“this proves the system works.But it doesn’t.”
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it did work, in this case if few others...


9 posted on 07/08/2011 11:37:34 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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The parade of people who give a kneejerk reaction to the headline without even reading the article has already started. No doubt others will join the parade soon.


10 posted on 07/08/2011 11:38:28 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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The “system” does not work when our citizens lack any common sense whatsoever.


11 posted on 07/08/2011 11:39:01 AM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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The jury in this trial was another example of people not understanding the difference of proving guilt “Beyond a reasonable doubt” and “Beyond the shadow of a doubt”.


18 posted on 07/08/2011 11:49:02 AM PDT by Signalman
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The Casey Anthony Verdict is Not an Endorsement of Our Criminal Justice System

Of course not. It's more of an indictment of it.

19 posted on 07/08/2011 11:49:25 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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From the article:

...Casey Anthony got off because she worked the system...

What does that mean? She wasn't supposed to have a defense attorney? That's the system. She got off because the State failed to provide enough evidence to convict her.

...The courts can’t always dispense justice, it is up to society to protect our children....

Like this perhaps?


20 posted on 07/08/2011 11:50:04 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Land of the free my @ss)
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IMHO, this verdict proves the system DOESN’T work. A 2 year old child was murdered. Nobody gives a ****! Just as with the Simpson fiasco, this is the end of it. Justice wasn’t served. The murderers go unpunished.


24 posted on 07/08/2011 11:56:02 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When the going gets tough, the tough check themselves into "rehab".)
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What truth? The author actually believes Casey Anthony’s pathological lies? Where’s the evidence that George Anthony raped his granddaughter? That wasn’t even put forth by the Defense (which was forced to drop the whole sex abuse thing, anyway, due to a complete lack of evidence). Something the brain-dead jurors forgot about.


26 posted on 07/08/2011 11:57:06 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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This article is all over the board.First, its about the dysfunctional family and how THAT is injustice. Then the fact that the defendent hired attorneys and THAT is injustice, then the fact that the mother didn’t notify authorities and THAT is unjust.

Then the writer wraps up all these myriad points and says our legal system is not just. Then says the criminal justice system works when someone is not found guilty if the jury finds not guilty, but then titles the article “not an endorsement of our criminal justice system”.

WHEW!

Life is often unjust. Yes, it is not just that children have to suffer at their parents/family’s dysfunction. Yes, it is tragic when a young child dies needlessly.
But NONE of that has anything to do with our legal system. Our legal system is not about obtaining Justice for tragic victims...sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. Our legal system is about the state punishing someone who is found guilty of a crime.

Now, there is work to get a law saying it is a crime NOT to report a missing child. That is good. But it hasn’t been a law yet.

This kind of article does not help understand our legal system, or help us to move forward to better protect children.


29 posted on 07/08/2011 12:00:22 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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It’s odd.

When the LA police officers were aquitted of brutality in the Rodney King case, many—including myself—were satisfied, despite the tape showing them beating him.

We said, truly, that the tape seen on TV had been edited to make the police look worse and King look better. The part that showed batons falling was actually looped by the lamestream misleadia to make it look like it went on much longer than it did.

We said, truly, that the jury saw the *whole* tape, and heard evidence we did not hear.

As we all remember, this verdict resulted in a race riot, during which Korean store owners protected their businesses with firearms, and atrocities were committed by the rioters.

Mark Levin and other experienced lawyers have said that the state simply failed to prove its case against Casey Anthony. They didn’t say that moronic jurors returned the wrong verdict, as in the OJ Simpson case; they said that the state*failed*to*prove*its*case.

If it’s so bleedin’ obvious that she killed the poor child, how is it that they failed to prove their case?

If I understand correctly, she was not on trial for being a horrible mother, for failing to report her child missing, or any of the other stuff that has led many to reason, “A mother that lousy *must* be guilty.”

She was on trial for murder, and for lying to officials (charges I never trust). The jury, who heard *all* the evidence, decided that the state had not proved its case on the murder charge, but they went along with the lying charges.

The system did work. The state is required to prove its case. Period. They didn’t. Period.


32 posted on 07/08/2011 12:07:56 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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FTA:

Casey Anthony may or may not have killed her child but we know she committed several crimes afterward.

That 's the whole problem with this case. she may or may not have, neither one is proveable.

Maybe the prosecutors should have charged the beyotch with crime they could prove, like trying to frame the nanny.

Blame the government prosecutors, not the system.

33 posted on 07/08/2011 12:11:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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Seems to me in an ideal world you’d have a process that attempts to determine the truth, and appropriate punishment doled out. Our system isn’t set up that way, the prosecution takes it’s best shot at what it thinks can be proven, and they person is found not guilty, they go free without fear of being charged again. No system is perfect but that’s the biggest flaw in the one we have, IMHO.


37 posted on 07/08/2011 12:15:32 PM PDT by bigbob
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I haven’t read the article yet. I will comment first then go read it and make another comment.

These facts are on the record.

1. The mom says the child died accidentally
a. She admits no other person was involved

2. The mother lied to the police, so they would search for the child

3. There was duct tape over the child’s mouth.
a. why was it necessary, if the child died accidentally

4. About three weeks after the child went missing, mom got a tattoo
a. this ‘mourning’ mother got a tattoo saying, “The Good Life”

5. She was known to have been going out partying soon after her daughter went missing

6. She executed internet searches that sought information on chloroform and breaking necks
a. why look up this stuff at all, but particularly just prior to your child ‘having an accident’

7. The mother’s father, a detective with ten year’s experience noticed the unmistakable smell of a dead body in the mother’s car trunk
a. at least one other person with experience in such matters, also picked up on the unmistakable smell

8. How do you explain all this away, without murder being the core vehicle?
a. keeping in mind mom says it was an accident on her watch, who else is to blame
b. I know mom said a baby sitter was the last to see the child
c. that was dis-proven
d. mom fell back on the accident story
e. that’s the ultimate explanation.

9. How can you rule for innocence? Well, you can’t.

10. It’s my take that there is clear evidence of massive jury misconduct here.
a. not doing due diligence
b. discussing the issue early on against instructions not to
c. ignoring the only logical conclusion to be made
d. using flawed logic to come to preposterous conclusions
I. method of death not ascertained (can’t convict)
II. no motive (can’t convict)

11. How could anyone else have done it?

12. Does it matter what method was used?

13. Isn’t wanting desperately to be free, then celebrating freedom, and heralding ‘the good life’ a completed circle? Yes.

14. There are grounds (IMO) to prosecute the jurors.

15. If they were prosecuted and found to have been guilty of jury misconduct, a mistrial could be declared.

16. If a mistrial were declared, the mother could be charged and prosecuted again.
a. someone with more knowledge than I may see this as ‘not an option’, but I’d like to get the concept on the record


40 posted on 07/08/2011 12:19:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.)
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Did the State charge her with any of those other things? If not, it’d be hard for the jury to find her guilty.


48 posted on 07/08/2011 12:29:53 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Why is this case such an outrage ?

It makes no logical sense to be outraged and whine about how terrible it is when - thousands of murderers are either not prosecuted or tried and acquitted every year.

Thousands - 18,361 homicides in 2007 alone. Were there 18,361 soap-opera cases that were flogged by TV “lawyers” for YEARS ? This is only one case, and since she died there have been probably 50,000 homicides. Have there been 50,000 prosecutions and convictions of those murders ?

But we are outraged because we see a cute little victim.

Well, for children under the age of 5, in 2007, there were 750 homIcides in 2007 alone. 750 HOMICIDES OF CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 5 IN ONE YEAR - it’s somewhere around that number EVERY year.

Where are all the trials for their murderers ? Where are the convictions ? Where are all the convictions for murder for hundreds of children murdered every year ?

It makes no sense to be all so outraged against the one trial that has dominated the news for three years and view this one verdict has evidence that at this particular point in time our judicial system has been destroyed by this case because we didn’t see the conviction we wanted to see - and yet there are hundreds of non-convictions like this every year. If non-conviction is a problem - WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM HUNDREDS OF TIMES EVERY YEAR - THIS IS NOTHING NEW.

Many Americans obviously have a fascination with Caylee Anthony, the poor cute little girl who they feel without a doubt was murdered and they don’t need a silly thing like a trial to prove who did it. This type of talk IS provocative and creates a lot of danger for innocent people. If we believe that Casey is the murderer, bear in mind that all this outrage is resulting in death threats to her parents: did all 3 kill Caylee ? Are we that sure of that as well ?

Another point to ponder: during the year 2007, when 750 children under the age of 5 were murdered, here are the statistics for accidental deaths for children under 5:

675 Motor-vehicle accidents
20 Other land transport accidents
13 Other and undspecified transport accidents
60 Falls
19 Accidental discharge of firearms
515 Accidental drowning and submersion
239 Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames
53 Accidental poisoning and exposure to noxious substances
1,279 Other and unspecified nontransport accidents

2,873 Total accidental deaths


56 posted on 07/08/2011 12:39:45 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (It's not difficult.)
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I wish many on this forum would read this and take it to heart....

I'm tired of arguing with them, and I know others are too....

...THIS IS SPOT ON!...I was disgusted with Geraldo and Judge Napolitano....and even Laura Ingraham....and especially with Hannity.

77 posted on 07/08/2011 1:29:30 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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