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The Casey Anthony Verdict is Not an Endorsement of Our Criminal Justice System
redstate.com ^ | 7/5/11 | Rob Taylor

Posted on 07/08/2011 11:27:44 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

When the Casey Anthony verdict was announced I expected celebration from her defense team. I was more taken aback by the celebratory tone taken by pundits like Geraldo Rivera and Judge Andrew Napolitano. Their position is the same one that many liberals, anti-death penalty activists and libertarians are promoting now: this proves the system works.

But it doesn’t.

The American justice system is the greatest legal system in the world but like any other it is fallible. In the interest of liberty we err on the side of caution in criminal cases, but that means that in many cases we do not get justice. Talking heads on Fox were making the point that this was justice, that the verdict is a victory for the Constitution. This is wrong. Criminals getting off is a byproduct of a our love of liberty but it certainly isn’t an endorsement of our system.

Casey Anthony may or may not have killed her child but we know she committed several crimes afterward. She didn’t report her daughter missing for weeks. When police were finally involved she attempted to frame an innocent woman for murder. While her daughter was supposedly missing she was out partying. If not reporting your daughter missing for a month isn’t child abuse – or at least child neglect – nothing is.

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Little Caylee Anthony was abused, possibly raped according to her own mother who claimed George Anthony was a child molester. She disappeared and her mother did nothing. She died a horrible death and her family hired lawyers. Her body was desecrated, thrown into a ditch like so much garbage and her mother will likely walk free at sentencing. How is this an endorsement of American justice?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: anthony; casey; caseyanthony; caylee; cayleeanthony
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To: Las Vegas Ron

>>Whether Casey did or didn’t cannot be PROVED.<<

I think there was plenty of evidence to convict, but we don’t need to re-hash that all over again. I’m exhausted! lol


61 posted on 07/08/2011 12:42:29 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: outpostinmass2
John Wayne Gacey was convicted of murder when several of his victims skeletons were unearthed from his basement.

John Wayne Gacy confessed.

62 posted on 07/08/2011 12:42:56 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: miss marmelstein

you are exactly right


63 posted on 07/08/2011 12:44:47 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: PieterCasparzen

It is an outrage because it is an outrage.

I didn’t make it an outrage.

It IS an outrage.


64 posted on 07/08/2011 12:46:09 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Las Vegas Ron
John Wayne Gacey was convicted of murder when several of his victims skeletons were unearthed from his basement.
John Wayne Gacy confessed.


A confession is only part of the evidence, there was still a trial. You stated that you can't convict on murder if the corner's report does not have cause of death on it. That is not true and I used two examples where it was not the case. Maybe in your opinion you need the cause of death but not in most peoples depending on what other evidence is available.

The Lacey Peterson case is another murder where the cause of death was unknown.

65 posted on 07/08/2011 12:50:06 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

But you have no outrage about hundreds of other babies that are murdered every year and their murderers are not convicted either ?


66 posted on 07/08/2011 12:53:55 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (It's not difficult.)
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To: outpostinmass2
People with brains know she is guilty and the prosecuter proved it.

Damn. I'm just a scientist--one who has given forensic testimony in court. I guess I don' got no brainz...

You might keep in mind that despite the prosecution failing to convince the members of the jury (and others, obviously) that the founders believed also that those who escaped the judiciary but were guilty would still face another Judge. One who knows the facts.

Our system is designed to protect the innocent. Some of the guilty will slip through.

What I really want to know is why this is still top of the hour and the 'Fast and Furious' scandal, which promises to make Watergate look like a jaywalking ticket, is missing from my teevee?

67 posted on 07/08/2011 12:54:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“’There truly is a God and He will punish her.’

‘Nice of you to tell God what he should do’”

I believe they said what God “will” do, not what he “should” do. But I know, words are hard.


68 posted on 07/08/2011 1:05:21 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Smokin' Joe

Fast and furious is just the latest to benefit from the smoke screen.

Three years of diversion out of this story.

I am completely amazed at how a) how insanely over the cliff things are and b) how completely head-in-the-sand so many are. Quite a spectacle.

All it takes is a quick google and you find thousands upon thousands of babies thrown in the trash, etc., thousands of murders, gunshots, you name it. With no conviction, often no trial, often not even an arrest. Were those mothers better than Casey, because they managed to go on partying without the media getting involved ?

And yet we fall for it. Put up a nice white happy baby on the screen with an uncarin’ momma who’s playin’ the harlot, and voila - blinding outrage.

Breitbart needs to do an expose on baby murders with no conviction. bigbabymurder.com or something.

Why can’t we be just as outraged about EVERY baby murder where there is no conviction instead of picking our favorite to get outraged about ?


70 posted on 07/08/2011 1:10:00 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (It's not difficult.)
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To: outpostinmass2
There was no nanny that was a lie. Although a person with that name is suing Casey Anthony.

I understand that, but Casey got her name from some apartment application and used it to accuse her of a crime.

Casey knew Zenuga (sp) was a real person.

71 posted on 07/08/2011 1:13:05 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“When the coroner cannot identify the type of the homicide as in this case, there is no case”

That’s not true. People have been convicted of murder without a body at all, and obviously a coroner can’t indentify cause of death with no body. Obviously a cause of death would’ve helped, but your problem with the prosecution is the strength of their other evidence.


72 posted on 07/08/2011 1:16:37 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
I think there was plenty of evidence to convict, but we don’t need to re-hash that all over again. I’m exhausted! lol

I hear ya! This is a very emotional case and we all want justice for that poor little girl.

73 posted on 07/08/2011 1:16:42 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Tublecane
That’s not true. People have been convicted of murder without a body at all,

True, I don't agree with it but you're indeed correct.

74 posted on 07/08/2011 1:19:15 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: outpostinmass2
A confession is only part of the evidence...

You seem to want to just get in an argument over this and I'm not going to play.

We'll have to just agree to disagree over this and leave it at that.

75 posted on 07/08/2011 1:21:41 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“If that was the case, how come the State could not even prove a cause of death?”

Forget about Casey Anthony for a moment. Nevermind the particulars of the case. For someone to say what you just said, and mean it, it totally ignorant of how the law works. The fact that you could end up on a jury and hold onto such ignorance is perhaps an inevitable flaw of any system of justice in our imperfect world, but it is nonetheless sad.


76 posted on 07/08/2011 1:24:21 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
I wish many on this forum would read this and take it to heart....

I'm tired of arguing with them, and I know others are too....

...THIS IS SPOT ON!...I was disgusted with Geraldo and Judge Napolitano....and even Laura Ingraham....and especially with Hannity.

77 posted on 07/08/2011 1:29:30 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Totally different cases and States”

You don’t think anyone’s ever been convicted of murder in Florida without a body? Well, then, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

And what is it about this particular case that demands there be a cause of death when in other cases convictions have been secured without it? What makes Casey so super-duper-secret-ultra-sepcial?


78 posted on 07/08/2011 1:29:48 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Our system is designed to protect the innocent”

And punish the guilty. I realize it favors the accused by design, and I agree it should. But that does not mean justice is done when the guilty go free. Justice demands vengeance.


79 posted on 07/08/2011 1:34:02 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: dsc
If it’s so bleedin’ obvious that she killed the poor child, how is it that they failed to prove their case?

Clearly you didn't follow this case closely. If you had you wouldn't be saying this. The jury wanted to be spoon fed. If this is the new standard then our society is finished.

I wonder if Scott Peterson watched the trial. By this new standard he got railroaded. No one new how Laci died yet he ended up on death row. Wow.

80 posted on 07/08/2011 1:38:42 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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